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[25-Sep-21 07:41 PM] saganaki#0000
.playchat Phobos


[25-Sep-21 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
Registered Phobos Global Site Owners to play back in this channel


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**trolol-111**:	wassup phobros


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**Slomes**:	buying various bunch of consu on LM


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for Phobos and Antares residents to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	reminder that cheap H now comes through auction! Last bidders won at 24/u! see details here : https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/mads-yippy-style-auction/3749/6

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/mads-yippy-style-auction/3749/6
Mad's Yippy style Auction
ADDING A NEW ITEM Unfortunatly, this one will go through CX for now. I will be dumping it on CX at the same time as the contracts from above!      Location Item Amount # lots Reserve Outbids Currency     ANT CX LIO 181 1 10/u N/A AIC
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**WarpstreetBets**:	Cheap cargo space, leaving in 5 hours. 400 m or t available Pho -> ANT


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for Antares and Phobos residents to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone has 8-10 PSL to sell here?


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**mikalai**:	a few just off to CX


[01-Oct-21 06:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mikalai**:	can produce in 4-5 days if suits


[01-Oct-21 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mikalai**:	can do at 1800 per piece if you can wait and post the buy


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**alucard998**:	I have em ready and I'll do at 1900/


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[01-Oct-21 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Phobos, it is once again election time.  As ever, my platform is: Fund the CoGC, keep taxes low.  I'm now adding some funding of the SST to ensure there are enough Pioneers for growing businesses, but I am NOT funding anything higher than health with planetary funds.  If you want Techs or above, please work with private corps to do so. (to be fair, I'm feeding the PAR myself)


[01-Oct-21 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	I also have settled a farming planet explicitly to ensure that we have the materials to keep the CoGC running.  While I keep an accounting of Phobos's budget on the UFO server in phobos-politics (currently, Phobos owes me 30k AIC or so), I will generally use market price as I feed it out of my own supply.  This insulates the planet from higher costs (at a time when supplies are finally coming back down).


[01-Oct-21 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	When I say "insulates from higher cost", it means the planet will not lack RAT, PE, or MCG.  DW is slightly more difficult, but should be provided... even if prices hit the MM, it is only a budgetary concern, and I will eventually have to write off the planet's debt.  To you, citizen, you will still get the CoGC benefit.


[01-Oct-21 02:42 PM] ApexChat#8127
**alucard998**:	If anyone is interested in funding higher tier population, it came to my attention that the Library's educational bonus is worthless without Culture to back it up. As such, I believe I will be working on an Art Gallery. If you're interested in contributing to this project, please message me, either here or in Discord


[01-Oct-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/mads-yippy-style-auction/3749/5

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/mads-yippy-style-auction/3749/5
Mad's Yippy style Auction
Sorry was a bit late, got stuck at work!   Heh tbh I didnt really think that one through ^^ I think I will make it clearer next time as bids can only be multiples of X? Might be the simplest way to go  I will be running the bids again for next week! The bids will close on friday, 17:00 EST (23:00 CET)      Location Item Amount # lots Reserve Out...
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[01-Oct-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	Last call for very cheap mats!


[01-Oct-21 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	auction ends in 15 mins


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for Antares and Phobos residents to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Cvr11**:	Hi! I am in poseshon of a phobos site. Will you be botherd in progreshen of the site?


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**WarpstreetBets**:	Welcome to the neighbourhood


[02-Oct-21 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Welcome, citizen.  I am your king, give me your tribute.


[02-Oct-21 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	10k trips KI-401d to CX and 6k trip SE-648a to CX on LM ANT


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for Antares and Phobos residents to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for Antares and Phobos residents to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	where the PE folks at?


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**Slomes**:	I ran out


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**Slomes**:	price too low?


[05-Oct-21 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	i upped the pay


[06-Oct-21 10:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for Antares and Phobos residents to ask questions and coodinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone got local PSL/PSM to sell?


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**ManoftheSea**:	I have 24 PSL at 2k


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**mikalai**:	have 6 PSM now, will have 10 in 32h


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**Madnewmy**:	whats your price?


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**mikalai**:	1100 per PSM


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**Madnewmy**:	sure lemme post


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**Madnewmy**:	still looking for PSL


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Thank you Phobos for once again electing me to be king.  With this coming month, I pledge to keep the CoGC running, throw my own money away on the PAR and higher tier upkeep, and participate in developing more Phobos infrastructure.  Please enjoy the planet.


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**Madnewmy**:	30 minsn till auction https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/mads-yippy-style-auction/3749/7

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/mads-yippy-style-auction/3749/7
Mad's Yippy style Auction
This week bids! Last 2 remaining lots will be posted on shipping contracts on CXLM      Location Item Amount Price     KI-401d H 500 12k AIC   KI-401d H 500 12k AIC   KI-401d H 500 11k AIC   KI-401d H 500 10.5k AIC         ANT CX LIO 181 20/u    Next week will be similar for MATs and price! Lots for October 8th at 17:00 EST (23:00 CET)      Loca...
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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**alucard998**:	buying 3 FE on LM


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**Madnewmy**:	Looking for PSM/PSL and THF/LAB time


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**Mumzhar**:	how much THF?


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**Madnewmy**:	maybe like 100


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**Madnewmy**:	enough to hold me over for a week


[11-Oct-21 10:06 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	I'm planning a second lab, to be up and running in 3 days.  This will allow me to do more THF while keeping DDT and TCL on the market.


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**Madnewmy**:	got about 225m3/280t leaving ANT to prom/HRT


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**Madnewmy**:	also found some THF to hold me over ty :)


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone flying pho/ant to HRT soonish?


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**trolol-111**:	waddup phobros


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**trolol-111**:	How are you doing Devs?


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**trolol-111**:	what's crack-a-lackin Mods?


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**trolol-111**:	how are the other staff at apex doing?


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**Mumzhar**:	no devs, only phobros here


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**Mumzhar**:	they are on the official discord though


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**Slomes**:	o7


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	anyone making C for sale?


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**Slomes**:	need a bunch


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**ColonelError**:	How much is a bunch?


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**Slomes**:	100?


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**yaro111**:	anyone have 20 SIO ? Contract on LM. Thanks in advance.


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**Slomes**:	anyone got 3 BTA for sale?


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[19-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	BTA.AI1


[19-Oct-21 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	ad is up


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**Mumzhar**:	filled


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**Slomes**:	thanks chief o7


[19-Oct-21 05:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	do you have more?


[19-Oct-21 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	ads up


[19-Oct-21 05:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	I have 2 more right now. Dozens in a few days


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone flying HRT to PHO/ANT soon?


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**LELE93**:	in 4-6 Days ;-)


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**Madnewmy**:	heh looking for sooner than that :P but ill have needs in that long too ^^


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone with a DEC for sale?&


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	I can do a DEC, but I count them as 8k


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**Madnewmy**:	when could it be done for? and can u deliver it here?


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**ManoftheSea**:	12 hours.  I'll be asleep, so 15 hours.


[20-Oct-21 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	It's in queue now.


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**Madnewmy**:	perf


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	looking for 1 TRU


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**Slomes**:	ad up on LM


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone able to take ppl from SE-648a to ANT CX soonish ? posted on CX


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	I've reduced taxes by about 5 in most categories.  You probably won't even notice.


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**WarpstreetBets**:	\o/


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	can someone sell me 4 TRU here?


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**Slomes**:	actually nvm, i need 30


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**Slomes**:	nvm nvm


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


[28-Oct-21 09:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	CEOs of Phobos, I bring this announcement to you from my table at Wendy's to inform you that an election will be held over the course of the next week.  My platform remains to keep Pioneers and Settlers available to all companies through the use of taxes; but to develop Technicians and higher through voluntary contributions.  At this time, we expect no new taxes.  As always, I keep track of Phobos's budget on the UFO server, found in Scorus's links.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**alucard998**:	Microheadphones available on LM. proceeds go toward building further POPI buildings, and you can donate the Headphones to the library or art gallery upkeep cycles!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	looking for N supplier, DM


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**Mumzhar**:	Mad: Nilitys is the local N supplier


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinte: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Phobos account is running a bit of a surplus.  Would the citizens of Phobos like for me to start funding Comfort with taxmoney?


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**Scorus**:	I like being comfortable...


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**ManoftheSea**:	Of course you do, it's your BRM that I'm going to be buying.


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**alucard998**:	I vote for culture. I'd sell MHP to the gov at 2800/u


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**ManoftheSea**:	culture's useless without comfort first.


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**Phaje**:	If anyone has 10 water to spare, I have a need.


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**Phaje**:	Please and thank you.


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**trolol-111**:	hello phobros


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**ManoftheSea**:	Thank you Phobos for re-electing me.  I would like to ask the population if they would like me to apply taxes to Comfort, as well.  Currently, taxes are keeping health and safety high enough to support minor growth.


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**alucard998**:	I say aye!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Dendagarius**:	hello all looking to set up a supply chain or contracts or how ever this works


[08-Nov-21 05:06 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Dendagarius**:	I can supply Iron now or Steel in a couple days for any one who is in construction


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**Eazy**:	I am interested in steel, i don't really know how it works though


[08-Nov-21 07:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Eazy**:	so apparently the best way to do that is local market contracts, which require PRO license


[08-Nov-21 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Metallurgy is better done on Deimos.  There's a better source of FEO in the deimos system, and the CoGC on deimos means making FE and then STL is faster on deimos (and therefore cheaper).  However, the Phobos CoGC gives a benefit to then turn STL into PT.


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**Mumzhar**:	I supply FEO on ZV-759b local market at 38/u. A shipload is 84 units.


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**Mumzhar**:	With ALO being available on Deimos, most bfabs in Antares space are done using aluminum in PP2 instead of iron in PP1


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**Madnewmy**:	7x shipping contracts with 10k reward on LM KI-401d


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**Dendagarius**:	So we cant actualy trade with other on the same planet with out the upgraded game play?


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**HarmonyStrips**:	Unfortunatly, yes


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**Dendagarius**:	Do both have to or just the seller or just the buyer?


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**Antagonistic**:	If you have pro, but it expires you can still accept LM orders, just can't place any


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**Dendagarius**:	So with out i can sell local but cant place a buy order


[09-Nov-21 05:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Antagonistic**:	You can accept sell or buy orders others have placed, but you can't place your own


[09-Nov-21 05:14 AM] ApexChat#8127
**HarmonyStrips**:	With pro, you can make your own ads on the local market, without, you cant use the local marekt, but whey you had pro, but it expires, you can still accept all the buy and sell ads, but you cant post your own buys and sells


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**HarmonyStrips**:	#joinFIO


[09-Nov-21 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone making BCO?


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**mikalai**:	I do


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**mikalai**:	@Madnewmy


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**Space_Monkey**:	can somebody do my basic deck element trade? My company is Stratoindustrys


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**mikalai**:	I have plenty of BDEs to offer on Phobos at 1500 each. please post buys on LM


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**Madnewmy**:	I got someone thx


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**Madnewmy**:	also, still got tons of shipping @ 10k/contract, LM KI-401d


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**Almond1778**:	hi


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**Mumzhar**:	hi and welcome!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	LM KI-401d free money for hauling


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**Slomes**:	free money for hauling xD


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**Madnewmy**:	yes :P


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**Madnewmy**:	I mean who here realisticly uses both their ships h24


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**Slomes**:	me


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**Slomes**:	xD


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**Slomes**:	but 10k is good pay, so whoever got a ship free go take those!


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**Madnewmy**:	yea I estimate around 5 ppl use them all the time :P


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**Madnewmy**:	maybe 10


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and collaborate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	got some ads going KI-401d -> Phobos on "LM KI-401d", 10k/load


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**Almond1778**:	ok


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Almond1778**:	my friend didnt read the lore and thought earth is in the game


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**Phaje**:	What is the going rate for shipping from ANT to PHO?


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**Phaje**:	More specefically, to ship 295t.


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**alucard998**:	usually ~2/ is considered a fair rate


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**Phaje**:	Thank you.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinte: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Phobos budget has a surplus.  Remember, Phobos budget only pays for trying to keep Safety and Health in the 90-100 range.  Comfort (PAR donations) and higher are volunteer driven.


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**ManoftheSea**:	Therefore, taxes have decreased by 5 in most categories.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	anyone got 21 CL 21 O for sale?


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**Slomes**:	wanna make some DEC for Nike


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**yaro111**:	21 O I had you can list 50 p/u


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**ManoftheSea**:	Rain is selling CL on griffonstone.  If you make the trip, I can sell you EPO or HAL, too.


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**ManoftheSea**:	I see the desire for Engineers on Phobos has exploded.  To that end, I suggest that if you want engineers, you're going to have to start donating or buying for donation UTS, MHP, HOG, and it looks like we could use another level of art cafe, to which I'll apply the Capt B funds.


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**Slomes**:	nvm then ^^


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**ManoftheSea**:	It's election time again already?  Wow.  Well, my platform is to continue funding the CoGC and POPI.  This will begin to include some Comfort, though the plan is not complete.


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**Madnewmy**:	2x 10k contract on CX LM


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	Thanks. I'm on the d-cord


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**Scorus**:	There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	Do we get shipping contracts much?


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**Scorus**:	Yes, though I haven't seen as many lately as I did in times past.


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**Scorus**:	If you have a spare ship, there are usually quite lucrative contracts on the ANT LM.


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**Domicius**:	Thanks


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	If anyone is looking for a shipping contract, offer me a rate to move Salt from the Salt mines at griffonstone back to the CX.  I have at least 2 loads, and by the time that's done, a third load.  That'll keep you busy for a week.


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**Domicius**:	Hi, if anyone can spare 30 OVE on Phobos i have an ad up LMA ZV-307D/8840


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	anyone got 3 LSE to spare here


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**mikalai**:	got them on Deimos


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**ManoftheSea**:	I have LSE.  3700/u


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**Madnewmy**:	I got them ty


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**TheKingInChrome**:	Hey all


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**Mumzhar**:	welcome!


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**trolol-111**:	hello phobros


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**rain9441**:	Hello phobros.  I'd like to take the opportunity today to begin campaigning for the future of Phobos.  No, not as governor, as the Advocate for swapping our CoGC over from Manufacturing to Electronics.  This is not a war I plan to win in a day, but I am pitching the first battle now.


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**rain9441**:	Madnewmy and I have cast our votes for Electronics already, which puts it at a strong position.


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**rain9441**:	The neighboring planet, Antares I C, which I'm referring to as A1C for short, can be the future foundation for manufacturing.


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**rain9441**:	Manufacturing is primarily BMP and WPL for the low tier efforts.  For mid tier, it is PPFs and SCA/MCA.  For the high tier, it is basically only APF and AAF.


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**rain9441**:	The APF and AAF are not really built in enough quantities that they'll really need the boost.


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**rain9441**:	For PPFs, SCAs, MCAs, and WPLs, there is no planetary resource supporting those buildings on Phobos.  So those buildings can go anywhere.  The only building that has any benefit from local resources is the BMP when it makes MCG.


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**rain9441**:	As we move into the future, the SIO on Phobos paired with the AL from the AL capital of the universe, Deimos, next door, can combine here on Phobos to make SI and then TRN (in a CLR cleanroom).  TRN is used in high amounts.  The electronics expert bonus would be substantial for TRN production and this would let us sell TRN to the rest of the universe for a lot of money.


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**rain9441**:	Furthermore, we are in the unique spot where we have an N gas giant next door and an H gas giant in the system, lending itself for a double bonus if we have the SCA running on A1C.


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**rain9441**:	The SCA outputs a lot of SEN and PCB which is used in ELPs that can be housed here on Phobos with the 25% electronics boost.


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**rain9441**:	This is the very foundation of Drones, which are the highest tier and a hell of a market maker


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**rain9441**:	It also opens the way for Phobos to become the standard place to build software which will be in high demand when scientists are established (which is soon!)


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**rain9441**:	Long story short... Antares I C - Manufacturing (BMPs, WPLs, PPFs, and SCAs).  Phobos - Electronics (CLR, ELP, DRS, SE, SL).


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**rain9441**:	Only in Antares will we find this optimal chain for drone production - all within 1 jump of Phobos.


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**rain9441**:	Thanks for reading, love you all, steve holt!


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**QuantumOasis**:	woot! woot!


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**alucard998**:	*clap*


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**yaro111**:	@rain9441 I can choose in future Electronics, but first I need to move minimum 8 PPF to Antares C. I planned 8 SD and 3 EPL on Phobos, so long term I prefer Electronics, but not now :) I know two more members which can change they vote long term for electronic


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**yaro111**:	Antares C need more population :) I can set up next base there


[03-Dec-21 06:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	If you want electronics COGC i think you need to lobby or smth


[03-Dec-21 06:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	I have 4 Manu experts + manu cogc, and pref it that way. Would be open to relocating potentially though in the mid future


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**rain9441**:	I'm lobbying right now my man


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**Madnewmy**:	@yaro population doesnt appear by magic, u gotta settle it to make it grow


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**yaro111**:	@mad I know, but this nice ideas you bring me today, so first is planning :)


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**Madnewmy**:	I wasn't even aware rain was gonna say something about it :D


[03-Dec-21 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	I, too, support Phobos Electronics.  But maybe rain would suggest a flag day?  1 month?  2?


[03-Dec-21 09:09 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	By setting the changeover to 3 months out, it gives all current manufacturing on the planet time to naturally decay.  Rather than "tear down what you built last week and move it over", it is "don't build anything new, move stuff as they reach 90 days"


[03-Dec-21 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	I've been surprised by the lack of higher level manufacturing going on on this manufacturing planet! That said, it seems like it will be a long time before A1C will be able to field the techs and engs necessary for it to support Phobos electronics needs.


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**rain9441**:	You can still run tech level+ manufacturing on phobos


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**rain9441**:	My hunch is that there is now a lot more tech+ level electronics happening here than manufacturing


[03-Dec-21 11:00 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Specialization into drones is more profitable than APF-LOG


[03-Dec-21 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	as for flag day.  It's whenever majority votes it.  We've already split the votes, and it seems like a perfecty natural progression to let everyone vote what benefits them the most that week


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**rain9441**:	If it goes back and forth a few times, so be it


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**Scorus**:	I'll go electronics once we have scientists.


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**Slomes**:	that decay timeframe is a really smart idea


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**Slomes**:	btw i have 2582 vote power if anyone wants to bribe me


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**Slomes**:	...


[03-Dec-21 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	;)


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**rain9441**:	I will give you 3 NCC


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**Madnewmy**:	I built a COGC u use :)


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**Madnewmy**:	thats a good bribe no


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**Mumzhar**:	speaking of COGC: building one on A1C would help people shift their manufacturing there


[03-Dec-21 02:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	yea its the plan


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**Madnewmy**:	someday


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**Madnewmy**:	when ill bother finding the stuff


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**rain9441**:	That'll probably happen within a month


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**rain9441**:	What A1C needs first is a PAR


[03-Dec-21 02:05 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Technician growth takes a long time, COGC is easy, best to just start the PAR early


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**rain9441**:	Isn't there some sort of like general antares government thing that is developing out the region?


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**rain9441**:	Where is deimos tax money going anyway :D


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**ManoftheSea**:	did Money Launderer win?


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**Madnewmy**:	nan lol


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**Madnewmy**:	someone woke up


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**alucard998**:	lol did you just run because the current govs weren't candidates at the start of the election?


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**Madnewmy**:	yes


[03-Dec-21 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	I voted for the money launderer, I thought it'd be a nice bonus service in the area.  How else are we going to keep our AIC clean


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**Slomes**:	that cogc is unrelated, and already built :P


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**Domicius**:	Thanks Mumzhar - much appreciate the H


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**Mumzhar**:	you are welcome


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	6x KI-401d to ANT contract up on ANT LM, 11k reward (around 4-6k fuel needed depending on speed)


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**LELE93**:	I need your help on Phobos. I urgently need 20 units of DW and RAT. I already posted it in the local market


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**Phaje**:	I'm looking to start a second base. Is there a good source of N not far from Antares I?


[07-Dec-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	https://fio.fnar.net/planetsearch


[07-Dec-21 02:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**HarmonyStrips**:	how about ZV 639d. Low temprature gas giant but almost 30 N a day


[07-Dec-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**HarmonyStrips**:	yes, is right next to Ant I


[07-Dec-21 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Phaje**:	Thank you.


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**Phaje**:	Would workforce upkeep be different, being on a cold planet?


[07-Dec-21 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**HarmonyStrips**:	the cold planet dont effects your workforce, you just need INS to build on it


[07-Dec-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Phaje**:	Ok, that's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure.


[07-Dec-21 03:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Phaje**:	Thank you.


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**Cazertanu**:	Here I am making RAT and DW. i hope you all are doing well.


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**Domicius**:	Whatcha selling at?


[08-Dec-21 06:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	I'm part of the OVE brigade. Dressing the galaxy 20 suits at a time.


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**Cazertanu**:	i will probably sell on the exchange in 2 days time.


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**Cazertanu**:	i need to make sure that my lopsided production still works


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Cazertanu: I would suggest you look at Harmonia for making RATs, or Etherwind for making DW.  It would be very difficult to compete with either of those using the resources on Phobos.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	8x12k reward contract on ANT LM


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	Hi there!


[13-Dec-21 10:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	As a reminder, Phobros, some big voices are intending to take Phobos CoGC to Electronics in about 6-7 weeks.


[13-Dec-21 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Well, I think I'm months away from being able to do anything about that. Maybe I can get into early stage manufacturing to feed into the electronics business. All that increased efficiency will increase demand as well I hope


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**Madnewmy**:	still 2 money load available, more in a few days!


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**Slomes**:	as long as those big voices build a COGC on the SHY planet


[13-Dec-21 02:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	before the 6-7 weeks


[13-Dec-21 02:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Madnewmy**:	oh yea wtb stuff for COGC dm


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**Madnewmy**:	by stuff I mean huh


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**Madnewmy**:	32 SP


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**Madnewmy**:	and maybe the BWS and BMF if rain doesnt have them


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**alucard998**:	I can work that into my production


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**alucard998**:	SP


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**Madnewmy**:	perf


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**Madnewmy**:	gimme a decent price :D


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**rain9441**:	I pay taxes, isn't there some sort of antares group that is supposed to be boosting the area with that money?


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**rain9441**:	Not going to shovel in more into POPI, i've already shoveled a million+


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**rain9441**:	POPI/COGCs*


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**Slomes**:	idc who does it, but if people want electronics cogc, they gotta provide a manu cogc to go to on the side planet


[13-Dec-21 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	I'll vote electronics once we get scientists.


[13-Dec-21 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Until then, I just don't see the use in it.


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**rain9441**:	We don't need to build a manufacturing cogc on A1C, we just need the votes


[14-Dec-21 09:07 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Rain, again, no, the "antares group that is boosting the area" is not tax funded.  Your Phobos taxes support low-tier on Phobos.


[14-Dec-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	I thought Harmonia's COGC+ADM were built using Deimos taxes?


[14-Dec-21 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	And wasnt there some sponsored HE3 initiative where the government paid for someone to settle an HE3 planet?


[14-Dec-21 09:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	All of the Deimos taxes that went into the Harmonia COGC and ADM were repaid by Harmonia.


[14-Dec-21 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Using deimos tax money, a loan was used to build out a COGC and ADM on another planet, which was eventually repaid.  I guess I dont understand why thats different than using tax money to setup a COGC on A1C


[14-Dec-21 09:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	and then taxing A1C to get the money back eventually


[14-Dec-21 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Taxes that go towards loans that are eventually paid is still tax money given to increase the viability of a region


[14-Dec-21 09:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	The deimos governor felt it was a good use of tax money to improve local production of RAT, DW and C. If you can convince a current governor to do the same to improve another planet, then that's that.


[14-Dec-21 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Good thing I don't have to, I'm only looking to convince people to work towards building up electronics in phobos and move manufacturing elsewhere.


[14-Dec-21 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	It's Slomes who wants the COGC built


[14-Dec-21 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	And I think Slomes has pointed out that a COGC would help to convince people of that.


[14-Dec-21 09:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	It is my intent to lobby for electronics, not to buy off votes


[14-Dec-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	I think many people realize the rich potential of the Electronics CoGC.  We're seeing a few votes in that favor.  I implore all citizens of Phobos to research the potential for Antares to be the high end electronics producer of the universe.


[14-Dec-21 09:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Every day drone market makers become more lucrative, and with electronics CoGCs we can produce more drones more efficiently than any other region


[14-Dec-21 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	While manufacturing does help this process, Electronics will help far more.


[14-Dec-21 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	ELPs, DRS, and CLRs with on site SIO and an adjacent mega AL supplier... It has incredible potential!


[14-Dec-21 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Not to mention we can drop SEs to spam software development that is sent straight to the market makers as well via selling EDCs


[14-Dec-21 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Incredibly easy source of income, usable on any CX


[14-Dec-21 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	I have always thought that Electronics was the future for Phobos (and you were one of the ones that thought that foolish, I remember). But we aren't there yet. I'm not ready to turn on a dime for an mm. When we have scientists and can start on WAI and such, it will be time in my book.


[14-Dec-21 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Then you are already convinced!


[14-Dec-21 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	:D


[14-Dec-21 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	As I've said numerous times, when we have scientists, I'll vote for electronics.


[14-Dec-21 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


[14-Dec-21 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	A long time ago, a Phobos governor did fund the Antares Fuel Initiative.  But my platform on phobos has not been that for longer now than that had been the case.  Development of the region is done by interested individuals.  You might sponsor a base, help get people developed doing the things you want to see, and get your own repayment of that loan.


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**Slomes**:	I just think it's a bit bull to try convince the hundreds of phobos players that electronics cogc is better for everyone, while only a handful of the uber rich benefit, while not providing an alternative cogc to the way larger manu population, which would be a drop in the bucket if the "big voices" put some money together for it instead of being greedy


[14-Dec-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	it's against the majority of the players interest to have a electronics switch rn, unless there is an alternative cogc to jump of to. I just think building it is the least to do, and I don't get the reluctance or refusal from the "big voices" side.


[14-Dec-21 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	Now don't get me confused, I also think phobos was always destined to be electronics, that was the long road from the start. But it should be done proper, not like this.


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**OnlyCowardsUse**:	See i am new to this shit but I choose to start my farm here sooo


[14-Dec-21 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**OnlyCowardsUse**:	oops


[14-Dec-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	check out Harmonia (ZV-896b)!


[14-Dec-21 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	it's our local farming planet


[14-Dec-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	phobos isn't too suited for agriculture, but one could make it work if they *want* to


[14-Dec-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	Harmonia has the proper infrastructure and stats for it though :)


[14-Dec-21 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	What is "like this" - all i'm doing is making people aware that we can and should switch to Electronics.  When enough people are ready, the votes would swing the cogc


[14-Dec-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	It's not an absolute, it's not like I'm going to instantly swap everyone over


[14-Dec-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	like this is without providing an alternative for them to go to


[14-Dec-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	^^


[14-Dec-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	And i strongly disagree that it only helps the uber rich


[14-Dec-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	It's in everyones best interest here to stand up electronics production


[14-Dec-21 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Even small players.


[14-Dec-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	is it though?


[14-Dec-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Maybe they make TRN, maybe they make SAR, maybe they make a DRS


[14-Dec-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	how do the small players with a BMP benefit from it


[14-Dec-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	rn they get 25% cogc


[14-Dec-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Demolish BMP, build CLR


[14-Dec-21 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	yea no


[14-Dec-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	have to disagree with you on this matter :)


[14-Dec-21 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	The money is in the drones, not the overalls


[14-Dec-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	(I can be bribed though, with a COGC on the SHY planet)


[14-Dec-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	sure but the fun is in the overalls, not the drones


[14-Dec-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Electronics isnt fun?


[14-Dec-21 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	no


[14-Dec-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	High tier workforce isnt fun?


[14-Dec-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Pioneers are fun?


[14-Dec-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	its the most tedious of building trees


[14-Dec-21 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	high tier is fun, but electronics isnt


[14-Dec-21 10:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	I beg all to consider the potential if Phobos & the Antares CX became an electronics trade hub.


[14-Dec-21 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Making things to sell to the MM is emphatically *against* "everyone's interest".  It makes us all poorer.


[14-Dec-21 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Making electronics that people want and will come to Antares to trade for is great.


[14-Dec-21 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Still, the electronics swap is still a significant fraction of a base-decay away.  If you're farming Phobos, you should really consider moving now.  If you're manufacturing on Phobos, go ahead and continue, but don't repair.  And if you're expecting to get high-tier workforces on Phobos, maybe put some consumables into the University, eh?  Run against the current governor on a platform of increased taxes for increased tier support.


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**Domicius**:	what is MM? Mass Market?


[14-Dec-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	Market Maker


[14-Dec-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	it's the infinite sell and buy orders on cx, which are not players


[14-Dec-21 11:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Ah yes. the lowest common denominator


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**Scorus**:	It's just that some of those lowest common denominators are pretty high!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	8x contract on CX LM, 12k reward for the trip


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**Mumzhar**:	almost empty ship going from Phobos to CX within a few minutes. Let me know if you want to ship something there


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**Mumzhar**:	I can also take 230 m3 / 309t to Deimos with the same ship


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	Hi guys!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Where are you new people hearing about the game from?


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**Bed4**:	Scorus from Youtube


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**DLR**:	Welcome to Phobos, everyone! Please dont hesitate to ask questions here or in help chat if you are starting the game as a new player.


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**Cazertanu**:	I heard about this game on Youtube. What about you?


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**Domicius**:	Yup, same here


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**DLR**:	I found this game randomly months ago when looking up new MMOs


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**Domicius**:	I wasn't looking for anything like this, but 1 look and I was sold!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	17x contracts, reward 12k on ANT LM. Also, 500 SI buy order on CX


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Hanyman**:	Scorus - I would make one delivery, but I still have my rating as pending.


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**Madnewmy**:	still tons of shipping contracts available on CX LM


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**Madnewmy**:	still looking to buy BMF + 16 BWS


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**yaro111**:	@mad BMF + 9 BWS I got now, rest BWS I can deliver in week time. BWF 15k BWS 12k


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**yaro111**:	if needed I posted on LM


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**mikalai**:	anyone producing BRS, CQT, SCB? Please give me a quote for each piece


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**yaro111**:	more BMF on CX if someone need


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**Madnewmy**:	posted


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**yaro111**:	thanks BWS should be in 4 days


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**Madnewmy**:	rgr


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**yaro111**:	now I checked and exactly in 2.5 day :)


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**Honor**:	If anyone can fulfill a 1NS order I would appreciate it!


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**alucard998**:	Mikalia, I have SCB for 38k any currency


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel fou you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**trolol-111**:	WELCOME NEW PHOBROS


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**trolol-111**:	WADDUP


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**trolol-111**:	I WISH YOU A HAPPy NEW YEAR


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Thank you all for re-electing me.  I will now follow through on my platform of keeping the money.


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**DLR**:	I hope it still feeds the planet infrastructure!


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**Yang_Mills**:	Happy New Year, Phobians! Let 2022 be prosperous!


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**Madnewmy**:	15x contracts on ANT LM, 12k rewards for KI-401d to ANT trip


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**Madnewmy**:	USR Annemarine keeps picking contracts from me without filling them, so watch out when working with randoms xd


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask quesions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**yaro111**:	I would like to buy 5 or 10 SCN. Can someone sell me ?


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**alucard998**:	Yes, 1300/u


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**yaro111**:	ok listed thanks


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**alucard998**:	available this week: Matched donation POPI tokens! If you'd like to contribute to our higher tiers of POPI, like the art gallery and the library, please show your support by purchasing a donation token in the form of DW on the LM! For each token purchased, you can cover 3 days of Holographic goggles in our esteemed institutions! Holographic Goggles retail for 5000 space bucks, but your donation of 25000 will cover 10 sets of goggles at one of these establishments!  Special Thanks to @[ANTS] Mumzhar | MZHR (Harmonia) and @[ANTS] Scorus | EXS for covering 9 days of MicroHeadphones!


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**alucard998**:	Thanks@yaro111! You've been enrolled in the Friends of the Library newsletter!


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**Slomes**:	I like this approach!


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**Slomes**:	I'll put this bottle of SUPER DELUXE fountain water into my cellar


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**alucard998**:	Thanks ManoftheSea! This week's fundraiser has sold out of goggles, and we've stocked the gallery and library for 10 days! A total of 50 HOG we're fund raised! Keep your eyes peeled for headphones, later this week!


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**Slomes**:	nono, keep your ears out for headphones


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**Slomes**:	and your eyes peeled for holographic glasses


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**Slomes**:	tsk


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**Slomes**:	utter madness!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**rain9441**:	Hello Phobonions!  It looks like the Electronics CoGC is getting more traction.  I would like to step up to the podium again and lobby for everyone to look into Electronics as the future of Phobos!


[07-Jan-22 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	With SIO here and AL next door, this planet makes a very idea llocation to make Transistors and Wafers, a huge part of electronics.  Manufacturing is good, and has been good, but doesn't necessarily have to be on Phobos because it isnt using any natural resources.


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**rain9441**:	Electronics can be an amazing industry to get into as Drones are of significant value.


[07-Jan-22 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	The drone frames are easily made in Deimos.  We can import POW from (anywhere) quite easily.


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**rain9441**:	Gold is abundant and easily purchased from the market at MM buy rates, which gives us easy access to make PCB


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**rain9441**:	The electronics CoGC will make Phobos a powerhouse for drone and SAR production as well as an amazingly efficient producer of WAI later on.


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**rain9441**:	The more players making drones here, the more engineers we employ.  The more engineers we employ, the more scientists we make.


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**yaro111**:	next veek after set up first ANT I C base 6500 votes from our corp will change they vote to electronics :)


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**yaro111**:	so it should be last manufacturing cogc


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**yaro111**:	hope antares C can offer me 700 settlers quick :D


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**rain9441**:	No rush


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**yaro111**:	I can change when you want :) as for now more profitable for me is manu cogc, as I produce LOG :) we plan move all PPF, BMP and WPL to ant c this month, but our  bottleneck is PPF ;)


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**yaro111**:	after change cogc to electronics


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**yaro111**:	but I think it should be solved in one week


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**yaro111**:	so we can change our votes with next cogc, or later. No difference. Let me know


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**rain9441**:	Change your votes when you have electronics down


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**rain9441**:	and it benefits you


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**yaro111**:	ok so two weeks more safe :)


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**ManoftheSea**:	I'll also be changing my vote on the second election.  A1C has a WAR and an LM - it's possible to have a base shipped there.


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**ManoftheSea**:	Plus, they're on manufacturing CoGC


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**Slomes**:	Yep, I recommend moving Operations there too. I am also in the Process.


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**Scorus**:	I


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**Scorus**:	I'll change my vote when we have Scientists. Before that there is no need for high levels of elecrtonics production.


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**Madnewmy**:	Annemarine i will specifically aim for yours to not fullfil them :)


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**Madnewmy**:	avoid that USR at all cost btw :)


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**Madnewmy**:	also


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**Madnewmy**:	few more contracts on CXLM


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Madnewmy**:	posted 12x Contracts on ANT LM, 12k rewards for KI-401d to ant trip!


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**alucard998**:	Wow! Phobos has a scientist! WAI production started this morning, and the FTL ship industry is breaking ground in Antares! To ensure that our scientist can make some nerdy friends and that they all stay happy, I've posted some donation requests to help fund MicroHeadphones for the Library and Art Gallery.  Each donation will provide 10 sets of headphones, which is 3 days of upkeep at the Gallery, and 6 days at the Library!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**alucard998**:	Thank you citiens for the generous donations! The library and art gellery will be stocked with MicroHEadphones for 9 days!


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**Madnewmy**:	Hey all, announcing tmrw in around 12 hrs ill be selling just about everything on phobod, ZV-307c, deimos, nike and KI-401d. This will be decently good deals for you! If you need anything in particular, feel free to DM me before so we can setup a deal. (I will be around in 10 hours ish for those)


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**alucard998**:	It's time for another round of community fundraising for the Library and Art Gallery digital devices! We continue to be plagued by a rash of teenage delinquency, with patrons checking out and then "losing" the microheadphones. Who can blame them, these things are pretty spiffy! But we need to buy more. Each water bottle purchased from our sponsors, available on the local market will cover 3 days of headphones, at the rate these kids are swiping them.


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**ManoftheSea**:	mine mine mine miNE MINE MINE MINE!


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**alucard998**:	Many thanks to our generous anonymous donor!


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**alucard998**:	donors!


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**Slomes**:	can i just donate 100k so it lasts a while?


[20-Jan-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**alucard998**:	Wow! You must really love libraries! With that donation, we should be able to keep the institutions stocked with Headphones until Feb 15th or so!


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**alucard998**:	Including the donation match from our corporate sponsors


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**ManoftheSea**:	Phobros.  It's election time.  Does anyone want to run?


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**yaro111**:	what is point to change great governor :)


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**Slomes**:	gotta support the local cultural heritage, no


[20-Jan-22 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	and im sure with such a generous donation, the library will be willing to accept a volume of Planetary Romance into the catalogue now...


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello citizens of Phobos! Do you want to buy Limestone (LST) at low cost? Come on over to Nike to buy OOG brand LST at 7000 AIC per shipload (183 LST). Also accepting custom orders. Support a local Antares business!


[22-Jan-22 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	Note that a PRO or BASIC account is required to use local market contracts. Free trial accounts are limited to the CX exchanges.


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**Domicius**:	Hang on, how did the Local Rules change?


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**alucard998**:	looks like electronics taxes got raised, since the cogc switched over


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**ManoftheSea**:	When a governor flexes his (or her) power...


[24-Jan-22 10:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Yeah, I lowered taxes on manufacturing and raised them on electronics.  I believe, at max taxes on electronics, it could cost almost 150 AIC per day to run an electronics building.


[24-Jan-22 11:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	That makes it hard(er) for the smaller companies to run electronics - although admittedly it seems like most electronic jobs run for an age and a half


[24-Jan-22 12:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	We most want to shield the new players at the expense of the experienced ones. I think this accomplishes that.


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**ManoftheSea**:	"harder to run electronics"?  There are zero pioneer electronics.  The EDM makes RAD (sell price 6k) in 5 hours - which means the tax adds 30 AIC to that. or 0.5% to the cost.  Other electronics have similar prices.  60 SWF a day, at 100/u - would need to be 103 to absorb taxes.


[24-Jan-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	But at the same time, the CoGC is reducing the expense of feeding settlers and technicians.  I don't think the max taxes are going to be at all meaningful to anyone capable of running electroncs.  Particularly not compared to the support they're donating to allow POPI to grow higher tier populations (shoutout to Alucard, thanks)


[24-Jan-22 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Domicius, do you feel like the taxes are going to cause you a hardship?  I'm willing to talk actual numbers with you in private.


[24-Jan-22 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	I'm for the electronics taxes to cover the COGC.  I just wish we could set all the other industries to 0 because they're still probably generating a significant portion of the tax money at 10 AIC/day


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Anybody got a spare BDE or BTA? Ads up.


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**ManoftheSea**:	Filled


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**yaro111**:	kapusta&yaro111 invite all for our first STL ship auction on Antates Region https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/stl-ship-auction-on-deimos-antares-region/4126

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/stl-ship-auction-on-deimos-antares-region/4126
STL ship Auction on Deimos Antares region
Cooperation kapusta & yaro111 present:  STL ship auction with glass-based STL Engine. Cargo bay 500m3/500t. Basic Hull Plate and small STL fuel tank (1500)  Perfect for Antares I or II system.  Starting bid 400k AIC  Auction end 8pm (uk time/UTC/GMT 0) Friday 11.05.2022  Material collection Deimos. Payment AIC  Please put your bids in posts belo...
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**yaro111**:	I am looking to buy Afabs, as I would like to donate UNI on phobos, anyone have sth ?


[04-Feb-22 12:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	lots of shipping contracts on KI-401d if someone wants to make some money


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**E-Rock**:	University Level 2!


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**E-Rock**:	Thanks to everyone who contributed!


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**Scorus**:	Thanks whoever made that happen!


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**Scorus**:	I've got a shipping contract on ANT for KI-840c, if anyone has a ship available.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**rain9441**:	scientists please Mots :P


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**yaro111**:	Engineers better :)


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**yaro111**:	I can donate, list 1 DW


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**rain9441**:	For you maybe


[10-Feb-22 07:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	more scientists!!!


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**yaro111**:	hehe for me for sure :D


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**rain9441**:	The ABH/ADE/ASE are on the way, I only have 4 ATA though, so we'll be a bit short on ATA


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**yaro111**:	ATA will be produced within 17h


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**yaro111**:	only LU still 3 to produce


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**yaro111**:	so on sunday I think UNI should be ready


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**ManoftheSea**:	I'm donating to the UNI as well.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**yaro111**:	2nd STL ship auction https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/2nd-stl-ship-auction-on-deimos-antares-region/4167

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2nd STL ship Auction on Deimos Antares region
Cooperation kapusta & yaro111 present:  2nd STL ship auction with glass-based STL Engine. Cargo bay 500m3/500t.  Small STL fuel tank (1500) without Hull plate. You can buy cheap BHP or LHP on CX.  Perfect for any system, specially Antares I or II system.  Starting bid 400k  Auction end 11am (uk time/UTC/GMT 0) Sunday 20.02.2022  Material collect...
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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	couple shipping ads up on Ice Station Alpha (LM SE-110c), 8600AIC/ad, SE-110c -> ANT


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**rain9441**:	29 scientists :pogchamp: :kreygasm:


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**Scorus**:	Ba-boom!


[15-Feb-22 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	100+ ENG also!


[15-Feb-22 11:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Did you already do another campaign


[15-Feb-22 11:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	If not, we should get recommendations from PiBoy and/or someone who can assess best value


[15-Feb-22 11:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	It looks like we got 4 scientists from education, which is 1.17% of engineers.  That's a 0.013 to 0.016 coefficient for 3 UNI and 1 LIB.  We should get 5-6 sci next week.


[15-Feb-22 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Need more ENG.


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**yaro111**:	looks like scientiscts programme had influence on eng grow as well ? am I right ?


[16-Feb-22 04:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**yaro111**:	like double education of all from settlers to scientics :)


[16-Feb-22 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**yaro111**:	so we should invest only in scientiscs programme. governor I can support cash for this programms :)


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**ManoftheSea**:	Education increased in effect as well.


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**rain9441**:	The engineer growth is due to the 3 UNIs being on.


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**rain9441**:	We got 2.4% of technicians growing into engineers each day.  We should expect about 100/week.


[16-Feb-22 09:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	The culture% is going to plummit, which will cause engineer happiness to go way down and reduce education effect as it grows


[16-Feb-22 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorus**:	Why will culture plummet?


[16-Feb-22 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Do we know if the universities turn on and take effect on that popi, or on the next one?  The third university was only built during the week.


[16-Feb-22 10:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Culture is down because there are no contributions to the art gallery.


[16-Feb-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Because the more engineers you have, the lower the culture% goes


[16-Feb-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	Not saying its a problem, just putting it out as an expectation


[16-Feb-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rain9441**:	The 3rd UNI took effect.


[16-Feb-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	I think pioneers consume a fifth the culture of engineers...


[16-Feb-22 10:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	But there are 70x as many


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**alucard998**:	HOG available @3000, MHP available @2000, I can fill LM ads immediately, if anyone would like to contribute to the gallery!


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**ManoftheSea**:	yeah, uh... gimme 100 of each.


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**Tesestestis**:	Election?


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**ManoftheSea**:	Yep.  Each month, you get to choose who gets to collect taxes.  I have been doing so, and will do so for another month, if I am again elected.


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**ManoftheSea**:	My platform has been to spend tax money on supporting the CoGC (though I don't control the category to which it applies) and Health and Safety (which keep our Pioneers and Settlers available).  I have not been spending on higher tiers, until supporting the creation of scientists with the Atlas update.


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**yaro111**:	3rd STL ship auction https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/3rd-stl-ship-auction-on-deimos-antares-region/4206

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3rd STL ship Auction on Deimos Antares region
Cooperation kapusta & yaro111 present:  3rd STL ship auction with glass-based STL Engine. Cargo bay 500m3/500t. Small STL fuel tank (1500) without Hull plate . You can buy cheap BHP or LHP on CX.  Perfect for any system, specially Antares I or II system.  Starting bid 400k  Auction end 11am (uk time/UTC/GMT 0) Sunday 27.02.2022  Material collect...
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**Scorus**:	Welcome to new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Fairone**:	Hard to get a decent margin with production on Phobos ~ long time to expand


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**ManoftheSea**:	What are you producing on Phobos?


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**DLR**:	@Fairone it does depend on what you are making :)


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**Fairone**:	Just startet with Extractor and smelter - so not much yet


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**ManoftheSea**:	oh no.  It is better to extract on Deimos - they get 4x the ALO per EXT.  And ALO->AL is the same as FEO->FE, but AL can make lfabs too.


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**ManoftheSea**:	Plus, they have a bonus to the metallurgy


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**HarmonyStrips**:	But with an extractor you can mine some Silicon Ore too. With an basic material plant and some Limestone from nike you are able to make a quite good Phobos base


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**DLR**:	smelting SI should be viable on phobos.


[22-Feb-22 11:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	Deimos is certainly a better metallurgy planet, though. The best one in the whole game I think. Smelters are expensive and efficiency goes a long way. The only benefit to doing it on phobos is the easy SIO extraction.


[22-Feb-22 11:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	@Fairone if you are going to commit to EXT+SME here on Phobos (some would certainly advise against doing this) another thing you might consider is to add 1 COL and 1 INC. This will provide oxygen and carbon which will add a lot of versatility and lower operating costs for your smelting.


[22-Feb-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	Also, these buildings are all considered resource extraction, so the EXT, COL, and INC would all benefit from the resource extraction experts.


[22-Feb-22 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	For clarity, the smelter is a metallurgy building and does not benefit from resource extraction experts. Only metallurgy experts.


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**Fairone**:	thx for the input


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**HarmonyStrips**:	You could also build a Farm on Phobos and make your own GRN to feed your INC. But phobos had bad fertility, rater recomend to do farming on Harmonia with a second base


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**jelutz77**:	HYF isn't bad to feed INC... grain cost isn't a big factor for C.


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**HarmonyStrips**:	Yea but you need a lot H2O to feed you HYF and NS as long you can extract the H2O from the planet its hard to supply it efficient. Phobos is not that good in H2O to make it worth RIGing it


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**Slomes**:	On the upside you can move 2500 H2O with one shipload, and you can run about 5 INC/1 HYF.


[24-Feb-22 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	And a little birdy told me theres unlimited H2O on Ice Station Alpha (SE-110c) 2 jumps out!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**jelutz77**:	Slomes, was the the little birdie in your head?


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**Slomes**:	yea, how'd you know? I call him coo coo


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**jelutz77**:	I seem to remember somebody a while back showing a STO or 2 full of H2O


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**jelutz77**:	If I wasn't limited by HQ I'd be taking on more projects... I'd be interested in that H2O as well


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**ManoftheSea**:	Thank you Phobos for electing me one final time.  With the POPI changes, it seems it will be quite easy to grow all levels of population.  However, in a month, someone else will have to take over the mantle.


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**DLR**:	We are lucky to have you! Thanks for all that you have done to support and grow this planet.


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**rain9441**:	agreed, a++ governor would vote for again


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**Slomes**:	@jelutz then fly to ISA or hire someone?


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**Slomes**:	like i said, got plenty


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**yaro111**:	anyone had 1 OFF for sale ? One missing for HQ upgrade :P


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**Tesestestis**:	just sold 4k plastic for 24k, idk if this is a just price but I do know that my brain released happy hormones


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**jelutz77**:	Which plastic? PG is worth 10x what PE is worth


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**ManoftheSea**:	People of Phobos


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**ManoftheSea**:	You're welcome.


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**ManoftheSea**:	POPI is broken in the other direction now.  There should be Engineers for everyone, and scientists for all who want them.


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**rain9441**:	OOOOOOO time to lay down the EDC MegAfFtctory!1


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Honor**:	How about not trying to charge 25k for tantalum Govnah?


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**Scorus**:	If anyone has a STL to sell, would appreciate it.


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**ManoftheSea**:	Okay, Honor, I've lowered the price of TA.


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**Scorus**:	Need a bit of DW and RAT. Ads up


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**yaro111**:	Last STL ship Listing on Deimos Antares region 500k Buy it Now https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/last-stl-ship-listing-on-deimos-antares-region-500k-buy-it-now/4288

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Last STL ship Listing on Deimos Antares region 500k Buy it Now
Cooperation kapusta & yaro111 present:  Last STL ship listing with glass-based STL Engine. Cargo bay 500m3/500t. Small STL fuel tank (1500) without Hull plate . You can buy cheap BHP or LHP on CX.  Perfect for any system, specially Antares I or II system.  Buy it now offer 500k  Material collection Deimos. We accept all currencies  Please post “...
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**JustFerret**:	Multiple rigs just adding more slots for orders? :|


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**JustFerret**:	Oh no.. i'm blind


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**Mumzhar**:	just a reminder: rigs on Phobos are more expensive than buying H2O on CX due to how little they produce


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**jelutz77**:	Yeah, H2O from Alpha has to be cheap rn


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**Slomes**:	what is the highest price people would buy my alpha H2O?


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**Slomes**:	i got my 5th expert yesterday, so now i have a bit more leeway, but its still [HSE+INS] RIGs so I have some limits


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**Slomes**:	I have 28k H2O there atm


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**Slomes**:	im gonna build a COGC then i can lower price to maybe 15/u selfpickup, does that sound fair to people open to buying H2O?


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**allocater**:	15/u can compete with Etherwind, yes.


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**Slomes**:	Ether is 7 jumps, ISA is 2 jumps also


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**Slomes**:	and last time I checked Ether people dont wanna ship to ANT


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**orlen**:	anyone can help me with 10 SIO?


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	looking for 12 BWS.AI1


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**Slomes**:	anyone can make them for me?


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**Slomes**:	still looking for those 12 BWS :(


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Phaje**:	What happens if no one runs for governor?


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**rain9441**:	then we blame FIO


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**ManoftheSea**:	Be honest, Rain, we were always going to blame Fio.


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**ManoftheSea**:	But yes, it's election time again.  My Pro license expires in 4 days, and you have to be paid to be a governor.  Thus, I will be ineligible.  We need someone to hold the role, if to do nothing else than run either education or festivities programs.


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**LazySiege**:	i put my name on the list


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**LazySiege**:	5 months pro


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	10 shipping ads up on "LM SE-110c" aka Ice Station Alpha


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**Slomes**:	looking for truckers


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**Slomes**:	P rated, so a good chance for anyone looking to increase their rating. easy haul, short trip, 8600AIC/load


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**Scorus**:	He sounds desperate, charge him more! :)


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**jelutz77**:	I think his STO is full


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**Scorus**:	Warehouse enlarged.


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**Slomes**:	i have 7000t storage left ^^


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**Slomes**:	but i also have 9000t of H2O on ISA


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**Weylin**:	are there any BMP goods that are in demand around here? not sure yet what direction to go with manufacturing


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**Scorus**:	Always need consumables


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello people of Phobos! In case you have missed global chat or the UFO trade chat, I want to notify you personally of the OOG ship auction!


[31-Mar-22 12:01 AM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/oog-corp-ftl-ship-large-cargo-bay-auction-2-million-or-highest-bid/4357

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[OOG] Corp FTL ship Large Cargo Bay auction (2 million or highest bid)
Hello, people of prosperous universe! We hope this message finds you in a time of good fortune. Ooga Booga Capital Management [OOG] is proud to announce our first public FTL ship auction. The auction expires in 10 days from the time of this posting, on Saturday, April 10 00:00 UTC. This means that final bids should be placed on or before the Fri...
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**DLR**:	please tell your friends and corporation members!


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**DLR**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


[31-Mar-22 09:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	wait wait wait.  That last message was DLR.  Not Scorus.  WTF, DLR.


[31-Mar-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	Also, Colonel Error, how's that seat eh?  That *warm* seat at the wendy's?  With the butt groove?  Yeah, you know whose butt groove that is you're sitting in?


[31-Mar-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	...


[31-Mar-22 09:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ManoftheSea**:	No really, I want to know.  It was like that when I got the position.


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**DigitalStarship**:	lmaoo wtf


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**Slomes**:	anyone interested in 222 C?


[01-Apr-22 12:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	got them lying around here so they could be for sale


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**DLR**:	@Slomes Ill buy it


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**Slomes**:	the full stack?


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**DigitalStarship**:	How much?


[03-Apr-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**DigitalStarship**:	like cost wise


[03-Apr-22 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	@Slomes yes, i want all 222 C, whats the price?


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**Slomes**:	C.AI1


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**Slomes**:	250?


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**Nirces**:	ad up for some mcg


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**ManoftheSea**:	Single digit happiness at POPR, and no program?  A loss of 2/5ths of eng and sci?


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**rain9441**:	rip engineers


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**DLR**:	Heard this, we are working on it.


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**alucard998**:	I've got lots of hog and mhp if you'd like to feed the popi


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**DLR**:	@alucard998 that would be helpful, did you have an arrangement to sell them to ManoftheSea?


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**alucard998**:	nothing formal, I used community donations to fund contributions previously, but when programs came around, I stopped.


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**alucard998**:	I've got 109 MHP @2500, 58 HOG @3000


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**DLR**:	@alucard998 posted buys for these


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**Yang_Mills**:	Hello ! I tried to understand why the happiness of ENG and SCI on Phobos crushed to one digits with the last POPR (number 58). It was actually gradually eroding since report 53. So I had to dig a bit into how happiness works in PrUn. For this I relied on the PrUn community derived guide on mechanics. https://pct.fnar.net/population-infrastructure/

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Population Infrastructure - PrUn Community Derived Information
Community derived data & formulas from the game Prosperous Universe


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**Yang_Mills**:	The key thing is that there are two types of happiness. The first type is the true happiness which depends on the unemployement/open jobs and need fulfilment during the week. This one is a hidden variable, not displayed anywhere. The second type is the average happiness. This is the one displayed. It's a weighted average of the ture happiness over the past 5 weeks. On top of that there are governor programs, Planetary festivities, that ad a constant value to the average happiness. But their effect is only for one week, no longer term effects. So because of the way the average happiness ingame is computed, there is a 5-week inertia to it.  It tried to infer from the date the value of the true happiness. Let's take the example of SCI. I assumed that up to and including POPR 52, the true happiness was, just as the average happiness, around 90 percent. From this I got that on POPR 53, the true happiness was about 67 percent, and starting from POPR 54 it crushed to one digits, like almost 0


[12-Apr-22 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Because of the way that average happiness is computed, we have seen the full effect of this only with the last POPR 58. But the « fundamentals » (true happiness) were already disastrous since POPR 54.


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**Yang_Mills**:	Actually POPR 53 is exactly when the Advanced education program III was enacted. Due to it, the number of SCI exploded from 226 to 785. So starting from the next POPR 54, there was a very high unemployment for SCI (74,5 percent). It crushed the hidden true happiness to one digits already on that week.


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**Visinvictus**:	Can we get a planetary festivities program to help reduce the population collapse?


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**DLR**:	Hello, unfortunately our governor ColonelError has gone suddenly inactive. This comes as a surprise to us, but he is no longer communicating and is assumed to be inactive at this point.


[13-Apr-22 07:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	I have offered to pay the festivities III program out of pocket, but received no response.


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**Blinder**:	hey, can someone run for goverment? i'm already a governor on Griff so i cant


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**Blinder**:	@Scorus


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**Blinder**:	@Yang_Mills


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**Blinder**:	@FireFreak


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**Blinder**:	@Pluck


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	I've altered the CX.  Pray I do not alter it further.


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**Nirces**:	Curious to your changes, I've seen the C and O


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**allocater**:	DW


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**ManoftheSea**:	Actually, I'm just handing out money


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Nirces**:	ad up for some mcg if anyone has any spare, 100@25p/u


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Yang_Mills**:	Greetings to all new players on Phobos! You chose this planet because the commodity exchange is in the same system, didn't you? You actually made a mistake! Phobos is by far not the most profitable starter planet. It is much better to start as a metalllurgist on Deimos and produce AL (aluminium), as a carbon farmer on Harmonia and produce C (carbon), or as a victualiser on Harmonia. Profits will be greater. Deimos and Harmonia are planets in the nearby systems, on or two jumps away from the CX (commodity exchange). But don't worry. You can just restart and set up your company anew. Use the COLIQ command.


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**Nirces**:	Hephaestus as a Manufacturer is not too bad either, in system


[20-Apr-22 05:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Nirces**:	Phobos is good for SIO extraction. and if you use some of your starting cash to buy SEA, Nike can make a good base


[20-Apr-22 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	I believe Hephaestus is not proposed as a starter planet when one creates a company.


[20-Apr-22 05:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	you can still start on Phobos and fly there before creating your base


[20-Apr-22 05:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	I believe that there isn't much demand for the SIO. Don't know how profitable it is.


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**Mumzhar**:	selling SIO on CX is fine. Using LST to make MCG is better. Smelting it into GL for construction is also good


[20-Apr-22 06:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	I would not smelt it into SI with current CX prices though


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**Nirces**:	No, just selling the raw SIO is good


[20-Apr-22 06:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	GL does not need that much SIO.


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**Nirces**:	MCG too


[20-Apr-22 06:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Nirces**:	and a tiny amount for the Copper :P


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**Yang_Mills**:	Producing MCG consumes 5 times as much SIO per unit of time as producing GL in GF.


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**Nirces**:	exactly, demand for SIO


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**Nirces**:	Plus I can get a better price for my LST from Nike


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Well, it looks like there's a wave of new players.  I am sad to tell you this, new players, but Phobos is not where you want to be.  If you want to farm or make carbon, go to harmonia.  If you want to make drinking water, Etherwind is the place to be.  If you are a manufacturer, you want Hephastus.  Metallurgy or Construction is Deimos.


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**Yang_Mills**:	Manofthesea, that's what I tried to explain earlier today.


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**Yang_Mills**:	Phobos will get an excess of bases with low productivity. Many will be disappointed with their income and quit the game after a couple of weeks. If only they have chosen a different planet.


[20-Apr-22 09:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	And the economy of Antares needs more carbon (Harmonia) and more aluminium (Deimos).


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**Yang_Mills**:	Greetings to all new players who settled on Phobos ! You probably chose this planet because it's in the same system as the commodity exchange, it's fertile, it offers some oxygen, water and iron ore. Well, I have to disappoint you. You made a mistake and fell into a trap. Phobos is by far NOT  the most profitable starter planet in the Antares area. It's not that fertile, it doesn't have that much oxygen and offers very little water and iron ore. Deimos in the neighbouring system is much better for metallurgy, the best planet for this in the whole universe actually. It has a lot of oxygen, plenty of aluminium ore, and aluminium is in much higher demand than iron. Deimos also receives a metallurgy bonus from its Chamber of Global Commerce. Harmonia, a planet two jumps away, is much better suited for carbon farmers and victualisers. It's more fertile, has much more water, and its Chamber of Global Commerce provides an agriculture bonus.


[20-Apr-22 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	You won't make much money as a starting player on Phobos. I would recommend you to liquidate your company and start a new one as a metallurigst on Deimos, or as a carbon farmer or victualiser on Harmonia. To restart, use the COLIQ command.


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**Yang_Mills**:	DON'T START ON PHOBOS! IT'S BAD!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	As others are trying to tell you badly, Phobos can be challenging as a starting planet. If you are wanting to do metallurgy, then Deimos is a much better planet for you! If you want to be a carbon farmer or victualist, then Harmonia is much better! The discord channel is a great place to ask for advice from veterans.


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**DLR**:	Welcome to prosperous universe!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	It is also a good place to talk to people about whether there is another Antares planet that might be better for what you want to do. Lots of variety here!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	It is also a good place to talk to people about whether there is another Antares planet that might be better for what you want to do. Lots of variety here!


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**ManoftheSea**:	Welcome, new players.  Scroll up to find a link to the United Faction Ops discord, where experienced players want to help you discover the game.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	It is also a good place to talk about the Antares planets and if there is one that is better for what you are doing. Lots of variety!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! Theres is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Mitlof**:	Phobos Bois


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**Blinder**:	Hey @Mitlof, please read the above explenations about this planet. it's far from suited for a starter planet. please consider COLIQ and start on a different planet so that you wount get discouraged and quit the game after few weeks


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**Mitlof**:	Thanks for the tip


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello people of Phobos, old and new, I am happy to greet you today as the new governor!


[22-Apr-22 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	My first act is to start the planetary festivities III program to increase happiness across all workforces. Also, in light of the massive amount of new players, we will be improving basic planet infrastructure this week.


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**DLR**:	We want to make sure we can keep pioneers on planet for later education, and provide a good environment in general for new players.


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**IgnorantC**:	Am I locked to the traits I picked or am I free to explore the game?


[22-Apr-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**IgnorantC**:	guess by locked I mean it's very inefficient


[22-Apr-22 08:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	you are free to choose whatever you want, including inefficient stuff


[22-Apr-22 08:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	and you can always liquidate (COLIQ) and restart with different starting options, but there is a cooldown on it


[22-Apr-22 08:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**IgnorantC**:	Good to know didn't realize was an option, cooldown as in I won't be able to liquidate again for a period?


[22-Apr-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	yes: 3 days for 2nd one, 21 days for 3rd one


[22-Apr-22 08:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	unless rules changed


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**IgnorantC**:	It's okay as long as it doesn't stop me playing.


[22-Apr-22 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**IgnorantC**:	I like the complexity here, little worried about being forced into a subscription.


[22-Apr-22 08:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	it depends how much you want to expand


[22-Apr-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	there are some hard limits, like number of bases and active ships at the same time


[22-Apr-22 08:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	some quality of life things like recurring orders


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**Mumzhar**:	and mainly being able to trade on local markets


[22-Apr-22 08:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Mumzhar**:	also, you don't lose all perks when subscription expires


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**IgnorantC**:	Sounds alright, will see how it goes


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**IgnorantC**:	This game runs on browser right?


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Aramed_Techton**:	anyone here able to tell me what a rig produces here?


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**sacarasc**:	@Aramed_Techton what kind of rig?


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**sacarasc**:	ah, my mistake: h20 8hrs 3 units


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**Aramed_Techton**:	water extracting rig I think? BUI RIG


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**Aramed_Techton**:	ah, thanks mate


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**sacarasc**:	no problemo


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**Aramed_Techton**:	super helpful


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**Blinder**:	Hey new players, please read the above explenations about this planet. it's far from suited for a starter planet. please consider COLIQ and start on a different planet so that you wount get discouraged and quit the game after few weeks


[24-Apr-22 04:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	i'll coppy and paste it here for your convenience:


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**Blinder**:	[OOG] Yang_Mills Greetings to all new players who settled on Phobos ! You probably chose this planet because it's in the same system as the commodity exchange, it's fertile, it offers some oxygen, water and iron ore. Well, I have to disappoint you. You made a mistake and fell into a trap. Phobos is by far NOT the most profitable starter planet in the Antares area. It's not that fertile, it doesn't have that much oxygen and offers very little water and iron ore. Deimos in the neighbouring system is much better for metallurgy, the best planet for this in the whole universe actually. It has a lot of oxygen, plenty of aluminium ore, and aluminium is in much higher demand than iron. Deimos also receives a metallurgy bonus from its Chamber of Global Commerce. Harmonia, a planet two jumps away, is much better suited for carbon farmers and victualisers. It's more fertile, has much more water, and its Chamber of Global Commerce provides an agriculture bonus.


[24-Apr-22 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	04/20 07:56 PM [OOG] Yang_Mills You won't make much money as a starting player on Phobos. I would recommend you to liquidate your company and start a new one as a metallurigst on Deimos, or as a carbon farmer or victualiser on Harmonia. To restart, use the COLIQ command. 04/20 07:56 PM [OOG] Yang_Mills DON'T START ON PHOBOS! IT'S BAD!


[24-Apr-22 04:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	04/20 09:20 PM [ANTS] Scorus As others are trying to tell you badly, Phobos can be challenging as a starting planet. If you are wanting to do metallurgy, then Deimos is a much better planet for you! If you want to be a carbon farmer or victualist, then Harmonia is much better! The discord channel is a great place to ask for advice from veterans.


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**Blinder**:	[GSO] ManoftheSea Well, it looks like there's a wave of new players. I am sad to tell you this, new players, but Phobos is not where you want to be. If you want to farm or make carbon, go to harmonia. If you want to make drinking water, Etherwind is the place to be. If you are a manufacturer, you want Hephastus. Metallurgy or Construction is Deimos.


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**Nirces**:	Or Nike for construction, but you have to buy extra parts and build non-standard starter buildings (you get a 25% boost to construction for the extra effort)


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for new players to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**ManoftheSea**:	Hello, new Phobros.  Buy a PP2, AL and LST from the market, and make some BSE.


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**DLR**:	This is very good advice from ManoftheSea


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**DLR**:	Hello Citizens of Phobos, please observe this 7-days notice on a tax raise for pioneers.


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**DLR**:	The upcoming Phobos population report is expected to show a very large increase in pioneer population.   We predict that the comfort level of all workforces could fall badly in response. This would be very bad for our economy, which has benefitted from Phobos being a high tech electronics planet. We have already worked very hard to protect our scientist and engineer workforces from low comfort, which makes them flee the planet.  Despite this, we understand pioneers are necessary, and also need to avoid a situation where we have a pioneer and settler shortage on Phobos. That could lead to an even worse problem.


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**DLR**:	In response, OOG is urgently producing supplies to upgrade the PAR, and committing future POL time to supplying the DEC for this building. The cost for this upgrade is estimated to be 600k AIC at market rates, and in reality closer to 350k AIC as OOG will be able to supply some of it at low cost. Also, the DEC contributions could add up to 60k AIC weekly expense if fully funded.


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**DLR**:	If pioneer populations stabilize within range of our infrastructure comfort capacity, we will be able to lower taxes again in the future.  Without further ado, The new proposed tax structure for pioneers:


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**DLR**:	Low fees (15 AIC) for Resource Extraction, Food Industries, and Construction.


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**DLR**:	Medium fees (20 AIC) for Fuel Refining, Chemistry, and Metallurgy


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**DLR**:	High fees (25 AIC) for Agriculture and Manufacturing


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**DLR**:	Additionally for higher tier workforces, we are increasing the tax rate of electronics, because the profit margin is extremely high and the field benefits greatly from Phobos infrastructure.


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**DLR**:	Technician Electronics: 90 AIC -> 100 AIC


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**DLR**:	Engineer Electronics: 90 AIC -> 125 AIC


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**DLR**:	Scientist Electronics: 90 AIC -> 175 AIC


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**DLR**:	This will be put into effect in one week, pending slight adjustments after we are able to analyze the next POPR report


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**DLR**:	thank you for your time, and feel free to discuss here and on the UFO discord server. I am also available in direct message, but am generally very busy and sometimes do not respond quickly.


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**DLR**:	Welcome, everyone!


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**DLR**:	If you have any questions feel free to chat here in Phobos global chat. There are many friendly and experienced players here.


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**DLR**:	Also, there is a discord channel for new players to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Blinder**:	few very small shipping ads are on LM. ANT -> Phobos. thanks.


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**Aramed_Techton**:	if they're still there tomorrow i'll take em for you


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Welcome everyone, to Phobos! Please dont hesitate to ask questions. We want everyone to succeed here!


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**DLR**:	Also, please do consider our other nearby planets. I will name them here along with the preferred industry on each planet


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**DLR**:	Deimos: Metallurgy, especially aluminum


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**DLR**:	Harmonia: Agriculture and/or food industries


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**DLR**:	Griffonstone: Chemistry


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**DLR**:	Hephaestus: Manufacturing


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**DLR**:	There are other planets around here that are worthwhile to settle on, but the 4 that I have named above are excellent options for new players for multiple reasons.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	There's a lot of new Phobians....


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**Domicius**:	Welcome all!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Blinder**:	@DLR, the planetary program has ended almost 2 days ago, please start a new one, and if needed i can pay for it myself.


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**Blinder**:	Governor, are you here?


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**Domicius**:	@DLR


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**DLR**:	Yes @Blinder, thanks for bringing this up as I am away on vacation and quite distracted. Planetary Festivities III activated again.


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**LazySiege**:	Can someone sell me 8 MCG i somehow missed them....?


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**Domicius**:	Post up an ad


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**LazySiege**:	Ah thx, didnt thought about that is up.


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**Purio**:	im flying my first load over to the station, ill have space to bring stuff (MCG) over if we can talk money (im broke) & its not urgent


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**alucard998**:	The local gas station will be opening for business in 9h! Fill up to a tank of SF at 12.5/u!  15000 units available weekly


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**alucard998**:	limit 1500 units per customer per ad


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**Domicius**:	ad up, @alucard998


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello people of Phobos, new and old! I am happy to announce what I interpret as a very positive population report. The steep downturn in pioneer numbers should be read as some new bases being cleaned up, and 2400 pioneers educating into settlers.


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**DLR**:	I think at this point, it is safe to run an education program next week to drag the population curve further towards scientists.


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**Domicius**:	I definitely will need some scientists.


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**Nirces**:	I'm happy with my 80 Engineers, I am debating extending this base rather than make base 9


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**alucard998**:	SF available 12.5/u


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**trolol-111**:	why phobians


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**trolol-111**:	why not Phobros?


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**Scorus**:	Because not all of us may be bros!


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**Yang_Mills**:	Good point!


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**DLR**:	Hello, Phobos citizens. I have queued the advanced education III program to help educate some of our unemployed settlers and pioneers.


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**Blinder**:	awsome! thanks GOV!


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**trolol-111**:	@scorus, bro is gender neutral, or i assume it is?


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**trolol-111**:	but i digress, phobian it is


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**trolol-111**:	until i find some thing better, and that is inclusive


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**Nirces**:	I've put up a buy order for 8 units of Glass if anyone has some at 250 p/u


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**Scorus**:	Welcome to new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Rannepear**:	Any Phobians making the trip to ANT Station, there's a shipping contract (via station LM). Easy dough


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**Rannepear**:	Any Phobians making the trip to ANT Station, there's a shipping contract (via station LM). Easy dough


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**alucard998**:	SF available @12/u. Basic players, feel free to post quantities or message me and I can post a sell


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**Rannepear**:	Bunch of piecemeal contracts on ANT for Phobos -> ANT. $4/t. For anyone making the trip. Thanks!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**alucard998**:	SF available at 12/u


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**SecretJedi**:	Where can I find more information for this Governor election and what each candidate purposes?


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**alucard998**:	The Discord that Scorus posts is a good place to start. There's a channel for phobos politics


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**alucard998**:	no one has stated a platform for this election


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello, all citizens of Phobos! We have many new players among us, as i am sure you all have noticed.


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**DLR**:	Feel free to address me in chat as @DLR if you have any questions about the governorship or our plans for the planet. I am also reachable on the UFO discord as [OOG] DLR


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**DLR**:	also please pin this chat buffer on one screen or the other! Communication of all kinds can contribute to organic economic decision making and growth, so we want to encourage more of it!


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**DLR**:	This is the UFO discord, for any and all to join. In the #access-request channel, type !join phobos. https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	Yay! More scientists!


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate at: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Marcuss2**:	Hello


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**trolol-111**:	dang


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**trolol-111**:	phobos is popular


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**trolol-111**:	courtesy of ooga booga capital management welcome new phobians


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**jelutz77**:	Yes, popular because it appears better than it is


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**DLR**:	Planetary Festivities III activated


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**DLR**:	For the entire time I have been playing this game, people have talked down upon Phobos as a bad planet, etc, etc.


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**DLR**:	The truth is, many people have found success here, inside and outside of OOG. Were happy to see so many new players


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**Aramed_Techton**:	what do you guys produce?


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**alucard998**:	Uh... money


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**Blinder**:	@allocater you're thinking about this in a wrong way. every single day, millions to billions of currency are getting deleted due to consumables and building degradation. there has to be MM to inject money to the game. also, nobody can play in a vacume, so the demand for consumables and fabs (at least) that Aramed injects to the market, makes other players get in to the food production or whatever.


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**Blinder**:	just wondering, is there a corp with an HQ on this planet?


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**allocater**:	I was just joking, but also we if look at somebody producing money, we have to check if somebody is destroying money balances it out


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**jelutz77**:	Corps can't build HQ on a faction planet; it has to be outside of faction space.


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**jelutz77**:	Etherwind and Griffonstone have them


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**allocater**:	so inflation is your fault!


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**jelutz77**:	I stand corrected as in Discord: can build Corp HQ in faction, not on original starter planets.


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**allocater**:	are there non-original starter planets inside faction space?


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**jelutz77**:	I think so. Is Nike one?


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**allocater**:	nike is not a starter planet


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello Phobos! As announced in discord, I have received a donation of 1 million AIC from [OOG] Earthling | Earth Inc.


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**DLR**:	This is given to supply the population infrastructure on Phobos in the coming months, and is greatly appreciated. As the governor of Phobos, i will be using this money with the help and advice of my corporation members to best supply our infrastructure, and continue to meet the needs of the planet at large.


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**Nirces**:	Can I recommend a PBH, as a few of those upkeep are relatively simple to maintain


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Slomes**:	remember to vote COGC if you have PRO!


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**Slomes**:	welp, worth a shot


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**Slomes**:	electronics lobby 2 strong


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Domicius**:	Public service announcement: if FLAK picks up your buy advert, don't pay him


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**Domicius**:	He won't deliver anything


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**LazySiege**:	i misscalculated and need 40MCG, has someone some spare? I made an add for 2k, think thats fair.


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**Blinder**:	guess someone already took the ad


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Rannepear**:	If anyone has 50 DW/RAT they could spare I have 2 buy contracts up for 3000cr . Would appreciate the help! Thanks!


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**Domicius**:	If anyone has a couple of GIN to spare, I've got a post up. Much appreciated!


[09-Jun-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Thank you Blinder


[09-Jun-22 12:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Sobriety has been avoided.


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**WhosRodrix**:	Hello


[09-Jun-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	I wanna ask you guys which buildings you guys run


[09-Jun-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	BMP/Software


[09-Jun-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	I kinda wanna do SE -> EDC


[09-Jun-22 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	Just gotta bring in consumables


[09-Jun-22 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	Drones are tempting but it looks really hard to do, especially since I can't dedicate any more planets to Phobos


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**Domicius**:	No argument from me.


[09-Jun-22 12:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	@Domicius NP. happy to help


[09-Jun-22 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	@WhosRodrix take into account the ENG shortage


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[09-Jun-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	I don't know much about shortages and populations


[09-Jun-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	I'm trying to learn up on it


[09-Jun-22 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	How is there a shortage?


[09-Jun-22 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	ATM there are 763 missing ENG on Phobos


[09-Jun-22 01:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	But we should get more every week right?


[09-Jun-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	should, yes. the gov is working on that


[09-Jun-22 01:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	look al the popr


[09-Jun-22 01:05 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	From what I understand, we need to keep the Population Infrastructure up to get more ENG every week?


[09-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	yes but either way it'll probably take 4-5 weeks just to close the gap, and that even without new demand


[09-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	welp


[09-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	Not much I can do about it


[09-Jun-22 01:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	Guess I'll wait


[09-Jun-22 01:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Blinder**:	just for your consideration..


[09-Jun-22 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WhosRodrix**:	?


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**DLR**:	Hello Phobos, I have just read the conversation about ENG shortages. Rest assured we are working on this.


[13-Jun-22 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	This is a new development, and I think is a result of multiple people developing software buildings.


[14-Jun-22 12:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**DLR**:	Regardless, the best way to approach this is to educate from our unemployed settler and technician worker base, while maintaining the infrastrucutre for low tier workers to ensure that we dont have shortages.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**melon164**:	wtb SEN, a small mountain thereof


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**melon164**:	Also DCS


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**Nirces**:	How many, DM me, I may of gone overboard on my dcs buffer


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**Blinder**:	@DLR heads up, the education program is about to end.


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**Nirces**:	I am offering shipping from ZV-639d to ANT (just 1 jump, round trip is 12-24 hours depending on speed, 2-3k profit)


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**Blinder**:	@DLR there's no program.


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel for you to ask questinos and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**6xphmealwexddqmybxs6**:	how do i get my inventory back on screen? I accidentally deleted the GUI


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**Nirces**:	INV


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**Nirces**:	theres a button to your right, you can drag a buffer into an empty tile


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**6xphmealwexddqmybxs6**:	thanks


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**DLR**:	New art cafe on Phobos!


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**Rannepear**:	$14 espressos, here we goooo


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**Scorus**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**6xphmealwexddqmybxs6**:	how do you load things into ships to sell?


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**jackinabox**:	drag from inventory on base into an inventory (cargo) window from your ship, take it to ANT station


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**RiseofFilth**:	If anyone is doing a run from ANT, there are two courier contracts up, 1k reward total for about 30m3


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**Sereno**:	hello


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**Domicius**:	Run short on water (oops) - ad up for 100DW if anyone can fill?


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**Blinder**:	done


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**Domicius**:	Thank you!


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**RiseofFilth**:	A good number of courier contracts up on the LM to and from Phobos/Ant


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**Blinder**:	hey does anyone has some extra truss on planet? i'll pay premium


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**aphonydissent**:	Looking for HE supply. Anyone have some extra I could purchase until I'm able to get some shipments made from out of ANT space.


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**RiseofFilth**:	if anyone can spare 50 dw/rats, i seem to have run out and my delivery hasnt arrrived yet :(


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**RiseofFilth**:	order up on LM


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**Blinder**:	in need of 200 OFF paying premium, ad on LM


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**Pyrimidion12**:	how fast does time travel in this


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**jelutz77**:	Real time


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**Pyrimidion12**:	im gonna blow up my house


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**Pyrimidion12**:	how do i get more materials


[18-Jul-22 01:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	Have to ship from the CX at Antares Station, unless you have a PRO license, which means you can buy them on the planet if you can find a supplier.


[18-Jul-22 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	Also if you have a PRO license you can pay someone to ship it from CX instead of doing it yourself, which gets it there pretty quickly in my experience.


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**jelutz77**:	I don't want you to blow up your house


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**Blinder**:	need something small shipped from ANT. ad up on LM. thanks.


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**Todesschabe**:	COLIQ


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hey Phobos folks, I need some stuff delivered to Heph in system. 10 Contracts that all add up to just under 500Ts/500m3. 2.5k AIC total reward


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**RiseofFilth**:	Phobos -> Heph


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**Blinder**:	1000AIC for shipping 96t from ANT to Phobos. ad on LM


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**tokanroe**:	To new guys, like me. I got lost early on because there is a lot the tutorial doesn't cover. Get to the help channel as soon as you hit problems it makes the world of difference.


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**WhosRodrix**:	The handbook is a HUGE help


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**WhosRodrix**:	99% of the time anyone has a question in Global or the Help channel the solution is a page of the handbook


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**WhosRodrix**:	So if you have any questions, do a quick search on the Official Handbook: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/

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Prosperous Universe handbook :: Prosperous Universe Wiki
Prosperous Universe Wiki


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**RiseofFilth**:	If anyone has 22 MCG to spare, I have a buy order up above 30/u on LM. Please and thank you!


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**NoahTheDragon**:	is it worth it to go up on the order size?


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**NoahTheDragon**:	at least when starting out?


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**WhosRodrix**:	Only if you run recipes which finish quickly and if you're BASIC or TRIAL


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**WhosRodrix**:	You seem to be TRIAL so if you notice your production lines are running out of orders quickly then increasing the order size might be a lifesaver IF your shipping routines allow for it


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**WhosRodrix**:	You just started, so don't worry about too much


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**jelutz77**:	Larger orders are no more efficient.


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**jelutz77**:	However, I wanted my 4h recipe to last 1.5d, so I created a larger order to last that long.


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**NoahTheDragon**:	anyone need help shipping stuff?


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**WhosRodrix**:	Unfortunately you won't be able to help people with shipping stuff because you are unrated [you don't have PRO/BASIC, which costs a bit of $]


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**NoahTheDragon**:	nice, put that in the video to reel more people in to paying


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**MirrorBlack**:	Anyone selling any SEA around Antares?


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**Yang_Mills**:	I sell SEA on Nike.


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**Rwinner16**:	How much sea and how much $


[31-Jul-22 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	Your Q was vague. A lot of people won't proactively come back with those clarifying Qs.


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**MirrorBlack**:	There's just none in the exchange. I need 4. Just asking if someone produces it so we can chat


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**SuperKingLink2**:	Im 100% confused even after the tutorial


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**WhosRodrix**:	Try going through the official handbook if you haven't already, search for any questions you have in it. If you're still stranded, we're always here to help @SuperKindLink2


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**jasmcx**:	hi


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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Hi Phobos


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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Does anyone have some spare TRU lying around I can buy? Preferable 100 or so!


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**Trumpet**:	Good Evening Phobos


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**Trumpet**:	hope you are all doing well


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**Trumpet**:	Good morning Phobos


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**Trumpet**:	hope you are all doing well


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**YJ14**:	Good morning @Trumpet, I am well! Hope you are too


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**Trumpet**:	Doing pretty good, thinking some of these commodities are trading wildly


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**Trumpet**:	at ANT anyway


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**jelutz77**:	Wildly? What do you mean. There is a lot of supply and demand constantly changing hands.


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**jelutz77**:	A lot of them are at super high prices currently


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**jelutz77**:	Maybe that's inflation


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**Trumpet**:	by wildly i mean things are weird prices


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**SuperKingLink2**:	yeah, prefab prices are high, but at least I have an mcg plant for getting some profit from all the inflation.


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**Trumpet**:	show me the money!


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**kirschpc**:	How to build


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**Trumpet**:	Well, let me have a rule and a saw and a board and ill cut it


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**Trumpet**:	I'll climb up the ladder with a hammer and nail and I'll nail it


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**Trumpet**:	Well we work so hard to build a little house together


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**Trumpet**:	in the snow or the rain or the ice cold win whenever


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**Trumpet**:	no matter


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**Trumpet**:	what the weather


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**Trumpet**:	we're together


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**Blinder**:	Hey, can someone sell/loan me 20 GIN? i'll be able to return it in 27h or just pay for it, doesnt matter to me.


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**Tief**:	Morning


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**luckymario8910**:	how much is oxygen worth


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**jelutz77**:	Value of anything varies: check out the CX for an estimate.


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**jelutz77**:	I go by Ask price. You could go by bid if you want to sell right away.


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**Ranged**:	It seems governor DLR has gone inactive


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**jelutz77**:	Yep


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**Blinder**:	I've lost 350 ENG this poprep


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**RiseofFilth**:	That sucks. It’s weird, because I just saw DLR build a new base on Hephaestus within the past week


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**jelutz77**:	Wow, almost 1k PIO/week educated


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Does increasing the Pioneers satisfaction also increase the production rates and population?


[25-Aug-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	It increases only the popultaion


[25-Aug-22 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	more precisely the migration speed.


[25-Aug-22 06:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	It does not increase the production rates.


[25-Aug-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Sorry, I ment the hapiness at plantary level.


[25-Aug-22 06:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	As for satisfaction inside a base, it increases the production rates but not the population.


[25-Aug-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Satisfaction per base: increases production rates.


[25-Aug-22 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Happiness per planet: increases migration.


[25-Aug-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Cool. Satisfaction per base: Increased production. And when you say per planet, thats the population pool that effects the other bases too, right?


[25-Aug-22 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Yes.


[25-Aug-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	There is a planetary happiness level that you can see in the population report.


[25-Aug-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Great. Thank you, I just got some back to base to test it and realized I could have asked instead of guessing.


[25-Aug-22 06:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Click on the population number and you will see the report.


[25-Aug-22 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	The happiness level affects the planetary labor pool.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Oh cool


[25-Aug-22 06:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Is there ever a good reason to lose global population?


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**Yang_Mills**:	The planetary population needs upkeep.


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**Yang_Mills**:	If the excess of population is too large compared to the opne jobs,


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**Yang_Mills**:	then the happiness of the population will decrease beacause of the unemployment.


[25-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Wich might trigger emigration (migration off the planet).


[25-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	And the population will decrease.


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**Yang_Mills**:	This is kind of a self-regulating system.


[25-Aug-22 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LegalTaxEvasion**:	That makes sense.


[25-Aug-22 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Join the United Factions Operations Dicord channel https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Yang_Mills**:	There you can chat with other players and learn more about the game.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Thanks and will do.


[25-Aug-22 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Is that the primary Phobos discord?


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**Yang_Mills**:	That's for the whole universe.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	ooooo


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**Yang_Mills**:	There you can find a section dedicated to Phobos.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	United Faction, got it.


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**Yang_Mills**:	And one for every other major planet.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Pretty slow in the beginning, eh?


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**Yang_Mills**:	Yes, the beginning is very slow, but it gets better after one months.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	Yeah, its already speeding up a bit


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**WhiteSaturnMath**:	guys how do i buy resources or get started?


[26-Aug-22 10:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	you will want to fly one of your ships to the Antares Commodity Exchange, and then purchase the goods there. You can find the CX (commodity exchange) on the left toolbar under CXL (which lists all CX in the universe). They are all somewhere in space, so you need to travel there. However there is also rentable Storage on site, which would allow purchasing (and selling if you have goods there) without a ship present.


[26-Aug-22 10:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Slomes**:	For flying there, just type "ANT" into the flight destination, then select the "Antares Station", which is a space station the CX is found on.


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**LegalTaxEvasion**:	It's a heck of a learning curve but I've been enjoying it


[27-Aug-22 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LegalTaxEvasion**:	@WhiteSaturnMath there's also a few good youtube videos worth checking out. Taught me a lot. There's quite a few ways to make money as well.


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**ColtVHD**:	Oryinn Smellz


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**Yang_Mills**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Tikigawd**:	Right... so just starting out, got my farms making some HCP, then incinerators turning that into Carbon. Grabbed another 5 days worth of Pioneer resources and have a ship en route to go collect it all.... Guess we'll see how it all goes in 12-24 hours


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**Tikigawd**:	Somewhat inefficient to have the ship collecting the Pioneer resources before my incinerators are done and my ship can haul Carbon on the first trip, but would rather risk fluffing up sending a empty ship incorrectly then one filled with 24 hours of goods production


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**jelutz77**:	Sounds good. That's why you start with so much fuel, I think.


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**jelutz77**:	Just be aware that the carbon farming start is exceptionally slow.


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**Oryinn**:	When considering shipping contracts and fuel costs, is there a way to find out multi stop fuel costs?


[31-Aug-22 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Oryinn**:	Or the costs of a ship to fly from point A to B when the ship is at C currently I guess


[31-Aug-22 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	use the BLU, and trace out the takeoff, landing from A -> B, then again B ->C


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**Rwinner16**:	it'll get you somewhat close.


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**Rwinner16**:	If B is on the flight path of A -> C, then just triple the landing SF usage that you see on A -> B, and you'll be within the error of margin


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**Oryinn**:	Sorry Im brand spanking new but what is BLU


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**Oryinn**:	Figured out the test flight thing thank you


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**Yang_Mills**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


[03-Sep-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	Dear citizens of Phobos,


[03-Sep-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	I am Yang_Mills, the CEO of Baryonic Technologies (BARY) and member of the Ooga Booga Capital Management corporation (OOG). On behalf of my corporation, I run for the governorship on Phobos. The current governor, DLR, cannot run this time because of real life duties.


[03-Sep-22 01:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	I started in PrUn 263 days ago as a modest carbon farmer on Phobos. Now I run an industrial empire stretching over 8 planets. But I kept an emotional attachment to Phobos. I also have a lot of experience in upkeeping the POPI on Phobos, since DLR has already delegated to me part of this task in the past. Thanks to the support of OOG, I will be able to keep the need fulfilment of pops at a high level.


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**Yang_Mills**:	I intend to keep the tax levels on Phobos as they are know. I will also ensure the growth of engineers and scientists on Phobos. For our corporation, the OOG, the high tier workforce on Phobos is of critical importance. Indeed, we have a significant electronics production here.


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**Yang_Mills**:	So vote for me for a prosperous and high tech Phobos !


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**Yang_Mills**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**A.Forrester**:	good morning, how do i see my still open purchase requests


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**Churaviis**:	@A.Forrester type the command CXOS into a blank buffer


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**A.Forrester**:	hey gusy/girls


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**A.Forrester**:	where can i see my open trade orders?


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**A.Forrester**:	nevermind, got it


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**-SAD**:	hello site owners


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**Yang_Mills**:	Welcome new Phobians! There is a discord channel where you can ask questions and coordinate: https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


[10-Sep-22 07:31 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Yang_Mills**:	I have been elected governor on Phobos. Thank you for your support! Queued an Advanced Education Program II. Phobos has too many PIOs and needs more ENGs.


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**-SAD**:	yes langue barriers hopefully gets beter and ppl start to product lines.


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**jelutz77**:	Yes, need to export PIO to A2B where they are needed


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**-SAD**:	good.


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**BynceHb**:	What's the profit in producing infrastructure upkeep stuff? Like if i make security uniforms, don't i just donate it to the infrastructure?


[14-Sep-22 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	The profit comes in maybe tax revenue, either by being in the same corp as the governor or by selling the product to someone that is, but mostly it comes by having enough workers to run your production lines at full efficiency.


[14-Sep-22 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**BynceHb**:	So whoever donates more to the infrastructure gets more workforce from the common pool?


[14-Sep-22 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	No, the workforce is doled out equally at POPR, but someone needs to donate the upkeep, otherwise there won't be enough workers for everyone.


[14-Sep-22 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**BynceHb**:	Oh i see. I bet governors just produce this stuff by themself, judging by the market


[14-Sep-22 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Yes, items that only get used for upkeep tend to be too slow velocity to sell on the market and most governors are advanced enough to make it themselves or are members of a corporation that is or they make special agreements to buy it directly from producers.


[14-Sep-22 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**BynceHb**:	Alright, I see, thank you


[14-Sep-22 02:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	It could also be that you're maintaining the facility for a 25% bonus to productivity on a planet by yourself, or are running a huge base at a big savings per quantity.


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**aphonydissent**:	yo yo, anyone need TK? I had a partner quit the game leaving me with some overstock so.....


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**jelutz77**:	I could use KV


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**RiseofFilth**:	You can always COLIQ to restart


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**tokanroe**:	How do I delete my account?


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**Churaviis**:	COLIQ in a new buffer


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**Niegrozny**:	Hi there, is there a Corp with HQ here on Phobos accepting members? :)


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**Maxerg**:	Hi! Working on it but we have a lot of things to do yet)


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**melon164**:	You can't build a corp HQ on Phobos because it's a starter planet


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**RiseofFilth**:	I have a 500T load on Phobos that needs ASAP delivery to Hephaestus. 7K reward on Heph LM


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**Aladdin**:	I have a fueled ship for that transport @HEPH


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**Caffiend**:	How is everyone finding the game so far?


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**261050**:	help


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**261050**:	never mind i got it


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**Caffiend**:	If you are new id recommend this guys videos, just be wary on his advice on what he thinks is the best starts because the market is a bit flooded in those areas now


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**Caffiend**:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkQvL7xDL4
Prosperous Universe | NPTNP: EPISODE 2 - Base & Screen Management
Howdy CEO's! This one is a long one, but a good one. Today we discuss basic screen and base setup to get you started on your way of getting you out of your mother's basement and get you started on your galactic empire!

Join my corporation: https://discord.gg/MwS8s8qvCk
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**Caffiend**:	In about 32 Hours I will be flying from ANT to Phobos. I will have 440m3 and 440t space available. Send me contracts if you need anything moved


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**AxelTheWolf**:	hi


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**mmmd**:	can someone fill the MCG for COGC? I filled the rest


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**Churaviis**:	Wow, thank you, I'll grab the rest


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**Emperyan**:	Like a random lotto paid for with rep... just faction rep you figure or global too? I'm just curious, not about to deliberately bork missions


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**Archiel**:	I am deliberately stealing my faction contracts. You can look at the mass/volume ratio and figure out what's in it before you decide.


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**Churaviis**:	Did you read the tutorial?


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**Churaviis**:	https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/tutorials/

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Tutorials :: Prosperous Universe Wiki
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**_Blu**:	is there a way to start over on a steam account?


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**collettiquette**:	Use the COLIQ command


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	Weekly TWITCH starting soon. Topic: Spreadsheets and other aids.  Join us soon at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome.

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GrandpaCanuck - Twitch
I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games.  I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse.
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**Onun73**:	Hi!


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**Onun73**:	How to buy resources to start constrctions?


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**Lexip**:	You have to travel to the nearby CX (Antares Station for you) you can take the fuel from the second ship (that you won't use for a while) to buy extra


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**Onun73**:	I have sent the ship to CX. It takes almost 9 hours to arrive. And then?


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**jelutz77**:	In the mean time, find what resources you need on CX and start buying. You can load them when you arrive.


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**Onun73**:	Ok. Thanks!


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**Churaviis**:	You can rent a warehouse on the CX or just let them go into overflow contracts and pick them up when you get there


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**Onun73**:	The ship arrived to CX but there aren't any resources to pick up. What have I done wrong?


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	If you had warehouse space rented before making purchases then your goods will be in there.  Otherwise, click [CONT] on the left sidbar to display contracts.  Select a contract to get the goods.


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**MrPink**:	Anyone looking to sell SIO at Phobos?


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**xensored**:	I don't think many people extract SIO here and waste area for extractors to mine some SIO


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**MrPink**:	thanks, I'm aware. Anyone bringing a half empty ship from the CX might be interested though


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**RiseofFilth**:	Tbf given this is a starter planet and the price of SIO, it wouldn’t be too bad an idea imo


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**Onun73**:	I accepted a contract and have a black square on my inventory. How to transfer to ship and deliver?


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**jelutz77**:	Drag it from inventory to ship cargo


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**Onun73**:	Doesn't work


[26-Jan-23 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Is your ship on the same planet and had it landed? Does it have enough free tonnage and volume to hold the cargo?


[26-Jan-23 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Onun73**:	Now I see. I have to open cargo


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**Onun73**:	In a mission like this: "Conduct planetary exploration survey" what is suposed to do after the arrival to the planet?


[27-Jan-23 06:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	Look at the contract after arrival. Does it need you to press the Fulfill button after landing, or does it automatically fulfill when you land?


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**Onun73**:	I have landed and the fulfill buton is not available


[27-Jan-23 06:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Onun73**:	Do I click the requets termination buton?


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**jelutz77**:	You landed on the planet requested?


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**Onun73**:	I've made a mistake of a letter. Damn! And now the flight takes 10 hours!!!


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**jelutz77**:	At least it's not 2 days


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**Onun73**:	:-)


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**Onun73**:	Is it possible to change fuel between ships? I have one stuck in a planet because don't have enough fuel to move.


[28-Jan-23 10:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Yes, if it's on the planet and not in orbit. If it's a planet with other people and you have pro or basic you can buy it from someone else.


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	Weekly TWITCH STREAM is starting. Come join us at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome.

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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	Stream over. If you wanna see the video look for it here: https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck/videos  See you all next week.

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**EvoV**:	./wave Hi hi


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**Churaviis**:	I have raised taxes to be more in line with other planets of similar caliber to Phobos, as well as to fund infrastructure improvements, starting with the Art Cafe, which will provide some much needed comfort and culture, as well as more improvements in the near future. Thank you for your support.


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**melon164**:	Wow, that's some hefty taxes on ENG and SCI!  To be clear, I fully support such an aggressively progressive scale, although it might not be popular... :-)  What's the financial position in terms of tax take vs POPI spend atm?


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**edoardoking**:	how does one play this game???


[31-Jan-23 06:10 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	@edoardoking there's some help videos on Youtube and the prosperous universe website to get you started


[31-Jan-23 06:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Also the official help channel can help a lot


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**Churaviis**:	OOG and I have been providing a ton of upkeep items, some of which require complex production chains. I've also been unable to keep up with the increasing demand for engineers and so need to upgrade some of the infrastructure for them. That's also why I only increased taxes for engineer and scientist products since the improvements are for them.


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**collettiquette**:	Seems fair


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	sounds like an appropriate redistribution of wealth plan.


[31-Jan-23 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I don't know have exact numbers but I do know that we've been providing far more on upkeep than we receive in taxes and I doubt that's changed even with the tax increase


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**Churaviis**:	I appreciate your support


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**RiseofFilth**:	I say this with love, but are you a real life politician, Churv? Because they can’t balance the budget either! Ayyyyyyyyyy got em


[31-Jan-23 09:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**melon164**:	an irl politician would have reduced the taxes on something like SCI agriculture and ENG fuel refining, then loudly announced how they were instituting a tax cut for hardworking Phobians...  :-p


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**Churaviis**:	I don't have a campaign fund that needs bribes so no


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**RiseofFilth**:	Not with that attitude! Bribes will find a way


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**RageSith**:	hello there anyone here :) ?


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	No we all left.


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**jelutz77**:	Yes, completely deserted.


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**MirageVFA**:	horrific


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**Churaviis**:	It's an electronics planet with lots of scientists and engineers, build yourself some companions of you're lonely


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	I hear the best VR companions are on Phobos, or was that one of them just telling me that because of their programing. Anyway I'd rater leave here and live in my VR universe.


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**Dehzhas**:	That's just what they want you to think. The best VR is sold through back channels and you have to know an in with the hacker group that makes it.


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**Dehzhas**:	I can neither confirm nor deny whether I know someone who can help if you are interested.


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	"Puts sign on door and posts an online" Do Not Disturbed gone to the Cyber Mall.


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**Gilith**:	there are rumours about Phobos' WAIs not being so weak...


[02-Feb-23 12:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	Insiders say the weakness was a label used on the box and that affects the behavioral protocol. Rumor has it the positronic core is the same as the strong version.


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**Emperyan**:	The computer is your friend...


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**Axolyte**:	i'm going to antares station with 300t and 400m3 free if anyone has a contract for shipment


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**Axolyte**:	offer closed. :S


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**Onun73**:	I have no fuel, no money and no drinking water. Wha to do?


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**Onun73**:	*What to do?


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	beg.  or COLIQ and start over.


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**Kwazi**:	how do i get more pioneers? just build pioneer habitation?


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**Gilith**:	and buildings with open pioneer jobs


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**Gilith**:	also check unemployment at the planet - currently for pioneers it shouldn't be a problem though


[04-Feb-23 09:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Kwazi**:	And where do i check unemployment of a planet?


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**Churaviis**:	Click the population number on the planet buffer


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	No TWITCH STREAM today. I am feeling a bit off and don't think I can talk long to make a good stream. See you all next week.


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**KZ_Kawasaki**:	Feel better soon!


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**Bioxx**:	Headed to Antares Station in the next hour, 300t/300m3 shipping available. DM if you want to set a contract up.


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**62**:	Bonjour. Quelqu’un pourrait m’expliqer en français le fonctionnement des contrats de logistiques ?


[08-Feb-23 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	c'est pour envoyer des choses (pardon pour mon francais)


[08-Feb-23 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	tu choisis le produit, le planete ou tu as le produit maintenent, et le planet ou tu veux le envoyer


[08-Feb-23 03:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	finalment, tu choisis le prix.


[08-Feb-23 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Mais il faut que tu as le license PRO pour faire des contrats


[08-Feb-23 03:27 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Si tu fais le contrat au Marche Locale, tu peux aussi choissir si les produits vont etre disposer automatiquement. Sinon, il faut que to les disposes toi meme quand le contrat est accepte


[08-Feb-23 03:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Finalement, le contrat cree un Paquet de livraison dans le inventoire du planete de origini (si les produits existent, evidement).


[08-Feb-23 03:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**62**:	Merci, mais c'est pour les contrats de l’alliance.


[08-Feb-23 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**62**:	voilà le contrat CONT 9B2QJ4G


[08-Feb-23 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Je ne peux pas le voir.


[08-Feb-23 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Mais ca doit etre la meme chose, sauf que tu choisi qui va apporter votre produits. Lui va etre le "partner"


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**Domicius**:	Le "condition" c'est pour changer les valeurs de produit et le prix, le "condition" c'est le numero des jours


[08-Feb-23 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	parodn le "parameter" pour les jours


[08-Feb-23 03:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**62**:	ok, merci. je vais essayer


[08-Feb-23 03:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	si tu veux, envois moi quelques contrats.


[08-Feb-23 03:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	On peut les terminer, sans probleme. Sinon je peux apporter tes chose


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**62**:	pour le moment je développe mes colonies. vu que je vais pas loin du lieu du contrat je tentes.


[08-Feb-23 04:00 AM] ApexChat#8127
**62**:	je vais réfléchir pur te faire des cotrats


[08-Feb-23 04:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Ok, bon chance


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**Onun73**:	Where do we see the faction reputation points?


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	Weekly TWITCH STREAM is about to start. Join us at www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome Topic: An Introduction to Contract Valuation


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**Axolyte**:	Local Market: 50x EXO at market price (230) if you wanna save a trip to ANT


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	Weekly TWITCH STREAM starting soon. Topic: End Game, what would make you quit? Join us at https://www.twitch.tv/grandpacanuck Noob questions welcome.

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GrandpaCanuck - Twitch
I'm an older Canadian guy who likes a large assortment of games.  I'm full of history and stories. Lets talk about WW2, the War of 1812, or Canadiana. I usually stream several times a week with content & times being diverse.
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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Hi all! I'm running the 2nd PU lottery and looking for people who'd like to participate to support the community and maybe win some money! Jackpot is at least 3m! See https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556 for details (tickets are 10k NCC each, so shoot me a cont and I'll upgrade the Google sheet!)

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556
PU Player Lottery #2
Welcome!  Tickets are available for the second PU player-Run Lottery. You can buy as many tickets as you like for 10,000 NCC each by sending a contract to AnotherOneAnother (company code AFI). All purchases are published on this Google sheet . The current jackpot is:   3,050,000   (with 3 million of that coming from charitable donations!)  On Sa...
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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Hi all! I'm running the 2nd PU lottery and looking for people who'd like to participate to support the community and maybe win some money! Jackpot currently *6.5~ million*! See https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556 for details (tickets are 10k NCC each, so shoot me a cont and I'll upgrade the Google sheet!)

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556
PU Player Lottery #2
Welcome!  Tickets are available for the second PU player-Run Lottery. You can buy as many tickets as you like for 10,000 NCC each by sending a contract to AnotherOneAnother (company code AFI). All purchases are published on this Google sheet . The current jackpot is:   3,650,000   (with 3 million of that coming from charitable donations!)  On Sa...
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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Lottery jackpot now 18.5m - https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556
PU Player Lottery #2
Welcome!  Tickets are available for the second PU player-Run Lottery. You can buy as many tickets as you like for 10,000 NCC each by sending a contract to AnotherOneAnother (company code AFI). All purchases are published on this Google sheet . The current jackpot is:   17,430,000   (with 3 million of that coming from charitable donations!)  On S...
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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Jackpot now over 20m! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-2/5556
PU Player Lottery #2
Welcome!  Tickets are available for the second PU player-Run Lottery. You can buy as many tickets as you like for 10,000 NCC each by sending a contract to AnotherOneAnother (company code AFI). All purchases are published on this Google sheet . The current jackpot is:   20,500,000   (with 3 million of that coming from charitable donations!)  On S...
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**Churaviis**:	STOP SPAMMING THE PLANETARY CHAT WITH YOUR STUPID LOTTERY ADS


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**AnotherOneAnother**:	Pro tip: you attract trolling when you use caps like that


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**Leny_Chang**:	Hello why I cant fulfill a provisioning of basic ration in a contract ? index 1


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**jelutz77**:	Is it the right location?


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**Leny_Chang**:	Transporter  is passing by my base and ship are docked to it, so yeah i think


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**Churaviis**:	Transporter? Where did you get a transporter?


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**Churaviis**:	You can't provision goods in a ship cargo bay, only from a base or warehouse inventory


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**AnotherOneAnother**:	New lottery! https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/pu-player-lottery-3-ncc/5589

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PU Player Lottery #3 [NCC]
Welcome!  We’ve had some success as a community with the last 2 lotteries and momentum is definitely building! Please continue to participate and tell your friends!  Tickets are available for the second PU player-Run Lottery. You can buy as many tickets as you like for 10,000 NCC each by sending a contract to AnotherOneAnother (company code AFI)...
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**henry.ritter79**:	hay


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**Churaviis**:	hoy


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**Domicius**:	Sirtradealot? Really?


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**jelutz77**:	lol


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**MatamorosREBEL**:	Im trying to join a corp whats the move. im doing manufacturing


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**Gl4ucon**:	well rn you cannot


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**Gl4ucon**:	since it would not make sense


[20-Mar-23 02:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	You can join a corporation any time you want.  Most of them would be happy to send you an invitation.  You can get more information about them in Discord: https://discord.gg/hKJScgHV


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**Gilith**:	you should get pro or basic license to really benefit from corp


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**MatamorosREBEL**:	Thank you


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**action_todd**:	Just established a new base... totally forgot to bring Basic Overalls.


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**Gilith**:	WTB EDC, ads posted on LM


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**melon164**:	What currency do you want to trade them into?


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**Gilith**:	CIS


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**Gilith**:	I mean I want to buy them for AIC, then sell for CIS


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**melon164**:	I have loads of EDC at MOR if you want to buy _those_ for AIC?


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**Gilith**:	thanks, I'll ask for some if/when I go to moria; for now, I'll just bid at CX


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**Milfyman**:	Moria... You fear to go into those mines. The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... shadow and flame.


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**Milfyman**:	no lord of the rings fans in here?


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**Churaviis**:	Arkenstone is a super niche, low volume mat


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**Cherrybark**:	@Gilith I can fill your 2nd EDC order in 24 hours or so


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**Gilith**:	OK, please do


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**Wauro**:	Hi,


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**Wauro**:	Does contributing to the things on the planet give anything? Or is the reward only having the structure on the planet there?


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**Churaviis**:	Contributing to population infrastructure affects how many workers are available for everyone's production buildings. It is mainly the responsibility of the governor but he won't say no to extra help


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**Wauro**:	Alright, thanks :) I will freeride until i have some more wealth then :P


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**Churaviis**:	Pioneers and settlers are easy to please, it's the higher tiered workers that get snobby about their virtual arcades and art cafe's


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**-SAD**:	hello all owners


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**Lexip**:	Hi -SAD ;)


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**CaptainBlank**:	Ayo bitch


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**Whatisavanhallen**:	sup


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**Cloutist**:	balls


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**CaptainBlank**:	aye nibba


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**Cloutist**:	/COLIQ


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**jelutz77**:	Alt-F4


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**Hernanduer**:	delete system32


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**jelutz77**:	I've done that before


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**jelutz77**:	accidentally


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**Hernanduer**:	I did it on a RHEL system at work once, it took them three days to restore it


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**Hernanduer**:	well it was /bin but same idea


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**jelutz77**:	Sort of... /bin is normally all symlinks


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**Hernanduer**:	well the kernel clearly didn't agree


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**Valavingee**:	I just started, did a new order to extract iron so do i just wait the 17 hrs now?


[02-May-23 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Phobos isn't the best planet for extracting iron, other planets it would be quicker. Regardless, the game is a bit slow at first. You'll want to watch the tutorials on YouTube first and then plan out your next move.


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**Valavingee**:	well shoot


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**Valavingee**:	I see the yellow bars next to each resource in the planet info tab, im guessing the higher the bar the faster itll be?


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**Churaviis**:	Correct, there are also other factors like whether you have enough workers, whether you give them luxury consumables, the planetary COGC industry bonus and experts, all of which are explained in the tutorials


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**Valavingee**:	Gotcha, def gonna check out the vids just wanted to get the basic info without going through however many minutes the vids may be


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**Valavingee**:	you recommend i restart on a better suited planet?


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**themisanthropicanthropologist**:	Or just switch to silicon production


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**Churaviis**:	The price of silicon is pretty good right now and it's easy


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**jelutz77**:	Or you could play the SIO market by taking shipping contracts from Norwick to Antares Station, if you have a PRO license


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**Valavingee**:	Gotcha, prob gonna move to silicon and just wait till tomorrow morning for it to finish so i can move on with the tutorial missions


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**Valavingee**:	Thank you btw


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**Valavingee**:	o7


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**g0815krieger**:	hi


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**Marc_smith**:	Hello


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**-SAD**:	hi all


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**-SAD**:	i need finance help.


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**-SAD**:	any corps recruitting


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**-SAD**:	?


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**Snakeaim**:	Also what happens if i start on aterious 2 ?


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**RiseofFilth**:	anyone got 3 RSE?


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**-SAD**:	any one know if ships condissiddions is from 100 to 0 or is it wiseverse?


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**Gilith**:	100% condition is fully repaired. most people recommend repairing above 80%, the ship slows down considerably below that


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**Grandpa_Canuck**:	So long and thanks for all the fish. After 390 days of intence play I have decided to pack it in. I will be mothballing things over the next couple of days in case I decide to return. It has been fun. Thanks all for the wonderful interactions.


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**Avovk1**:	hi


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**RiseofFilth**:	Can I have your stuff?


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**-SAD**:	ok


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**Cherrybark**:	Take care sir!


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**Grknsssklick**:	Robber Barren lives in plush Castle of Phobos, taxing his minions with every resource draw and crop pulled from this miserable speck of dust...


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**Churaviis**:	I guarantee you that I put way more upkeep and infrastructure into this planet than I will ever get out of it in taxes


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**Churaviis**:	Also, who's growing crops here?


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Why not raise taxes?


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**Churaviis**:	I have raised taxes in the past, at least on higher tiers and may do so again if we need more upkeep


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**Aktme**:	Doesn't seem very worthwhile to grow anything on this rock.


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**Gilith**:	Looking for a new FTL ship? Look no further - we have one listed on auction now! https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1114938831133753405


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**-SAD**:	what rock


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**-SAD**:	?


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**mrdoctor**:	WHATS UP PHOBOS


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**Gilith**:	6E 6F 74 68 69 6E 67 20 72 65 61 6C 6C 79


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**mrdoctor**:	those best not be coords


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**-SAD**:	i hope as well


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**-SAD**:	that can be my base


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**ptls0**:	can i delete my company and start over?


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**Neth_Havoc**:	yes with the command COLIQ


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**ptls0**:	cool, thanks


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**zoltan.f**:	COLIQ


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**jelutz77**:	Wrong window. That goes in a NEW BFR window, not chat. Did you get it?


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**Gilith**:	he did - and his new base is on Harmonia so he won't read this


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**jelutz77**:	ok


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**Controledfail**:	Hey I just started here from Harmonia


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**Hernanduer**:	gl with that, food is an easy start, not sure what the start here even is


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**Controledfail**:	Its the silicon and iron for me the wzter just makes it easier.


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**ArcaneFremen**:	Anyone on Phobos with a Corp that would be willing to invite me (free license) for awhile so I can see another aspect of Prosperous Universe? I know I won't be able to contribute anything material wise with free restrictions.


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**Hernanduer**:	most of being in a corp is about deals and contracts, it's almost entirely pointless in free tier


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	The only real benefit of a corp is the 10% production bonus from the HQ.  Free tier gets that just like anyone else.  Deals and contracts can be done just the same whether or not you are in a corporation.


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**Inforiel**:	We spread again..


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**Astronut**:	god this is confusing


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**Churaviis**:	Follow the beginner's contracts and read the tutorial, you'll get it with time and even if you do mess up it's easy to start over, most need to at least once or twice


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**PhantomSinZero**:	yo


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome


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**Leny_Chang**:	Hello, can someone sell me SIO on the local market ? I've made a ad


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**Leny_Chang**:	I need SIO asap pls dm me, not so much maybe 10


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**volkse**:	qq just to see if I am doing something terribly wrong..


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**volkse**:	I started out as a manufacturer, setup BMPs, but I don't have the basic materials to build EXOs (the only thing I can build at this point) - is it true that I have to fly for 19 hours roundtrip to the nearest exchange to get the stuff I need?


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**ArcaneFremen**:	I made a similar mistake... Go to your production menu. Go to overview. Go to new order. Select pull down menu far right of production template. You should have material on your ships to manufacture PE and or MCG.


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**volkse**:	Thank you!


[23-Jun-23 08:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ArcaneFremen**:	You are welcome. Best of luck to you. For fastest newbie advice I recommend the help communications channel.


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**Gilith**:	@volkse it depends on how much fuel you burn- you can reach Antares CX in less than 4 hours with enough fuel. it also depends on orbit positions - currently it's pretty good


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**Gilith**:	it's best to conserve your fuel at the start, but don't overdo it


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**jelutz77**:	@volkse If you wish, you can go to CX to get materials for EXO, and use your starter materials to make something else while you wait for the ships.


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**MrMoney**:	Curious if anyone knows someone producing GC, difficult to find any around here


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**jelutz77**:	It's probably produced primarily in a vertical setup for producing HMS


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**MrMoney**:	yeah shame about that, would've paid decently to get some, will have to prod my own at some point


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**MrMoney**:	Would anyone be interested in buying MCG off the local market, was thinking about putting some up there but want to know if anyone would buy first


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**jelutz77**:	Yes, GC only has one use, there are several intermediate products that way.


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**Inforiel**:	You can not use the LM being a free account - You'd have to haul anything you want sold along to Benten Station using a ship and sell it at the CX


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**Emperyan**:	Antares CX is definitely closer though...


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**MrMoney**:	If anyone on phobos wants to buy MCG below current market rate send me a pm, we can discuss price and quantity


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**Cherrybark**:	Electronics, Electronics, Electronics, Electronics,... as far back as it goes.  Now Construction is proposed?


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**Churaviis**:	Don't forget to vote


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**untech**:	New players! Vote Manufacturing, most likely you can't participate in Electronics yet.


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**untech**:	Old players! Consider choosing Manufacturing for a few weeks as a supporting measure for new players :)


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	New players.  consider choosing a different starting planet that already has the resources and COGC that you are looking for  :)


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	But seriously.  Old players make way to much money from the electronics GOCG to consider switching it.  If somebody wants to support new players they're better off just handing over some cash.


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Speaking of which, I do have a couple interesting offers.  Send me a private message for more info.


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**melon164**:	What exactly are the new players supposed to manufacture here that they couldn’t do on Heph?


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**untech**:	You're right about other planets, its just that onboarding tutorial sends Manufacturing people on Phobos. So I guess there's a bunch of us. We could COLIQ, if course, but it seems a bit radical. The problem is that you realize the importance of COGS only some time after you choose the planet


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**RiseofFilth**:	Definitely always recommend moving to heph


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**RiseofFilth**:	That being said, if you are coliqing, then Promitor is the best start


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	I wouldn't worry too much about it.  The first base is always less than optimal until you've learned the game.  Then you eventually build more bases and convert that first one to something more appropriate.


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**jelutz77**:	Yes, Phobos was Manufacturing in the beginning... then it developed the workforce for electronics. The starting packages and tutorial apparently was never changed. It doesn't mean you can't do manufacturing, just that you don't get a bonus for it here.


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**BlueJay5773**:	I am struggling so bad


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**Churaviis**:	Everybody does at first, just follow the beginner contracts and watch the tutorials


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**jelutz77**:	If you're not making money back after selling, you're probably doing something wrong. Otherwise, it might just be going very slowly, which is typical in the beginning.


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**untech**:	Are there owners of AML in Antares I system? I am looking to rent one for a few days, may be on a regular basis in the future. Drop me a DM if interested.


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**RiseofFilth**:	Lots at A1B planet


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**RiseofFilth**:	what are you looking for


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**untech**:	I am trying to acquire some TA.


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**untech**:	So, to make matters more clear, here's the arrangement I had in mind:


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**untech**:	- I buy and ship TAI to your planet


[09-Jul-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**untech**:	- You process it to TA and keep FE, which I don't care about


[09-Jul-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**untech**:	- I take TA from your planet


[09-Jul-23 07:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**untech**:	Ideally, I'd like your planet to be at Phobos I, but 1-2 jumps from Phobos I is ok too.


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**xensored**:	And who would pay for the production costs for TA in the AML? If I remember right production costs for each TA is about 5k (only consumables/repair costs, no input materials included). That would never be covered with 1 FE you offer to keep


[09-Jul-23 08:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	And A1B is a TSH-planet, so the overall production costs on that planet are even higher than on a T1 planet


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**untech**:	Of course, I'll pay a fee for each TA produced


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**melon164**:	What do you want to make with it?  SC?


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**untech**:	yep


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	SC is fairly inexpensive.  You're better off just buying it at the CX.  If you want TA, I'll list some next time I am at Antares.


[09-Jul-23 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**untech**:	Cool!


[09-Jul-23 06:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**untech**:	I want to make SC because it has better margins than MED for my recently built CHP. Also it would give me an opportunity to play around with multistep production.


[09-Jul-23 07:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**untech**:	Also, I found a person who agreed to the terms!


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**blaxican**:	How do I add materials to my new base? Tutorial kinda left me hanging after telling me to queue an order


[10-Jul-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	Need to send a ship to CX to get more, most likely. However, it may be a good idea to take some product to sell at the same time.


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**Aktme**:	You probably have the materials in your ship if I remember correctly


[10-Jul-23 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aktme**:	You just need to drag it from your ship inventory to your base inventory


[10-Jul-23 03:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aktme**:	screen 04. Base at the top left drop down under (SCRNS) should have the "INVENTORY BS" and your specific ships inventory already setup


[10-Jul-23 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aktme**:	or I'm totally remembering things wrong


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**Axolyte**:	Is there quite a lot of inflation at the moment? :S


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**untech**:	What resource are you looking at?


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**Controledfail**:	I dont know about much here yet but BDE seems super overpriced.


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**Ravick**:	Put up a buy on LM for EXO and PT if any have some to spare - thanks


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**Churaviis**:	I got you


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**Ravick**:	Thanks man!


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**untech**:	Whoops, am I too late? :)


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**Cherrybark**:	Whoops,  wasn't paying attention and voted for Chemistry as the COGC focus.  Hopefully the motion will be defeated and Phobos can continue Electronics.


[15-Jul-23 06:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Cherrybark**:	KB Industries proposed Electronics and I was able to change the vote.  Hurrah


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**Tomasus**:	Need 4 ACS - add on local market


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**jelutz77**:	You can change your vote


[17-Jul-23 07:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	You can also see which program is winning by looking at the list of programs to vote for


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**Grknsssklick**:	why would a fertile / farmable world be anything but food production?? there are other places with water not farmable


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**Grknsssklick**:	how do i vote? oh im free i cant vote, 2nd class citizen...


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**Grknsssklick**:	Back to nature!!! feed the hungry... Vote the Technocrats off our world....


[18-Jul-23 10:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Grknsssklick**:	I cant even raise cows...  id have been happy with sheep or chickens but no....


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**Grknsssklick**:	If our ancestors had been vegatarians, we would have never used fire,sky daddy would not be here...


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**Gilith**:	some choose to be vegetarians; I choose to eat vegetarians :D


[18-Jul-23 11:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Gilith**:	(I mean sheeps or chicken of course ;)


[18-Jul-23 12:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Grknsssklick**:	Ive licked a few vegetarians, but that was more fun than satisfing, not sheep or chickens of course...


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**jelutz77**:	It's cheaper to import food from Harmonia than to produce on Phobos, that's why not farm on a "fertile" planet; it's not fertile enough to compete.


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**jelutz77**:	We used to farm here, when the choice was to import from Benten or buy from Market Maker


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**Grknsssklick**:	I only have 3 rigs and 3 farms and get 25-30k per week, next week a new hab and 2 more farms


[19-Jul-23 09:10 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Grknsssklick**:	i dont see the path to electronics, items dont use silicon to make basic electronics? ill farm...


[19-Jul-23 10:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	That works, you'll get established and branch out :)


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**Controledfail**:	I farm here and Harmonia. This colony is almost self supporting. I only buy limestone now.


[19-Jul-23 04:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	There's also Demeter if you want to farm with COGC bonus and Norwick if you want to separate your food processing


[19-Jul-23 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I also use Nascent for burning crops into carbon


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**Scorpium**:	That sucks. had shipments of rfabs coming from ben station. a new company picked them up 5 days ago. hasn't been online since. extended contracts. I have now lost my rfabs!


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**jelutz77**:	I do HYF on all 3 planets; Harmonia, Norwick, Demeter.


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**jelutz77**:	And FP


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**RiseofFilth**:	You gotta be real careful with valuable cargo on public transport


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**Scorpium**:	first shipping issue I have had since playing the game.


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Choose A rating when posting important ads.  That will at least filter out brand new players (though it doesn't take much to get an A rating).


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**Scorpium**:	Oh, believe me.. that will be happening! ;)


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**Ravick**:	Bunch of shipping ads posted on ANT CX to bring to Phobos if anyone has extra shipping capacity - thanks


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**Controledfail**:	That is part of my main loop. but my rating is too low. Would run that in about 10 hr.


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**jelutz77**:	I think I got them all on my 3k


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**KZ_Kawasaki**:	big ships!


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**Ravick**:	Thanks jelutz and nomadhunter for the shipping!


[21-Jul-23 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Hmm, maxed out tonnage by mistake.. Anyone around interested in buying ALO or SIO per chance? Or maybe AL AU FE SI STL?


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**Ravick**:	I'd buy AL


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**Churaviis**:	Have you filled up all 1500t of your warehouse as well?


[21-Jul-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Yupp, grand total of 18,000 tons


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**xensored**:	I can offer up to 5k space if needed


[21-Jul-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	or send a WCB ship within 2h


[21-Jul-23 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	for shipping


[21-Jul-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	There are many people, including myself, that run puddlejumpers to and from Phobos regularly with extra space. Post some shipping ads and I'm sure they'll get picked up quick


[21-Jul-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	If there's enough interest, I can also look into upgrading the warehouse


[21-Jul-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	It's not a regular issue, at least for me :) I just happened to fall sick for a week and barely touched Prün in the meantime


[21-Jul-23 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Took your advice on posting some shipping ads to Phobos since I have another 22 KT storage there yet to fill up


[21-Jul-23 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	picked them up, I have to refill consumables on Phobos anyway and will send the STL ship now from ANT. Can jump over to Heph afterwards


[21-Jul-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I told you


[21-Jul-23 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	No stress on my behalf,just happy to have some space now so production can run until my own ships visit ANT region again


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**xensored**:	with 3 bases in ANT + CX I would always suggest to invest in a STL ship


[21-Jul-23 05:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	I already have 11 ships, just need to be active and not mess up so there's one kept around


[21-Jul-23 05:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Thanks for the help


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**xensored**:	yw


[21-Jul-23 05:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	Ship i on the way, but I'll jump into my bed soon (late here in Italy). So shipping will be done somewhen next 12-15h. cya


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**Jaycer9**:	Hello, I am a new player and chose this planet to get started and learn the game on. Any tips for a new player?


[21-Jul-23 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Do the beginner contracts, watch the youtube tutorials and read the wiki. After that come back with any questions you can't answere there.


[21-Jul-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Jaycer9**:	Thank you


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**Grknsssklick**:	What they did not tell you was this is an Electronics and Chemistry planet, i cant let cows roam range, nor sheep or chickens either. I'd settle for a big juicy bug burger!!!


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**Controledfail**:	I want goats


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**jelutz77**:	Have you played Goat Simulator?


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**Controledfail**:	Totally... Not quite as interactive as the real things


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**Komalarn**:	Need 5 OVE quick :( Ad is up on LM ... thx


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**Komalarn**:	paying 160/unit


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**untech**:	done


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**Komalarn**:	thx :)


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**WildCerebrus**:	Hi


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**Rook_Pares**:	hello all.


[29-Jul-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rook_Pares**:	Starting out here


[29-Jul-23 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos. Be sure to follow the beginner contracts, read the tutorial and watch the training Youtube videos. If you have any questions after that then feel free to ask.


[29-Jul-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rook_Pares**:	Where would I find beginner contracts?


[29-Jul-23 03:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	The button that says CONT to your left has all your contracts, or type CONT into a new buffer ("NEW BFR" in the bottom corner)


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**Rook_Pares**:	Thank you! Completed them already


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**This_is_The_Wey**:	Hi


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**Lehanat**:	hey I'm new here and I was wondering is it worth to just by carbon and hydrogen to make poly-ethylene or should I make something else


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**Inforiel**:	Eyo - depends on a lot of things, like consumables, how much fuel you burn while flying to collect, etc. Only way to be really sure is to crunch the numbers for yourself


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**Inforiel**:	Generally it's not hard to make a profit, but when starting out you either want to track down items that seem very stable or that have currently highest returns


[01-Aug-23 04:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Comes down to playstyle - If you prefer slow but steady, might want to switch planet and go for someplace with agri- or manufacturing focus , Phobos has been switched to electronics by the player base


[01-Aug-23 04:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	If you are willing to invest more time and keep on track with the shifts of market, anywhere could work since you'd likely be switching what you focus on producing and mixing across markets for max profit initally


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**Lehanat**:	hmmmm I see..... welp I guess imma need to do a lot more studying and planning I guess


[01-Aug-23 05:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Welcome to spreadsheet simulator


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**Inforiel**:	There is also a public chat that might be able to provide guidance better than the local one


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**Inforiel**:	COMP global


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**Grknsssklick**:	DOWN WITH THE TECHNOIST, let free farmers farm the few places they can...


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**Grknsssklick**:	I choose a farmer / victular and this was the most fertile i could find...


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**jelutz77**:	Harmonia is much better, but I'm not sure if it's a starter planet.


[01-Aug-23 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	You're welcome to farm wherever you want but Harmonia and Demeter have agricultural COGC planetary bonuses which will add much more efficiency than fertility levels, especially when combined with expert bonuses


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**Grknsssklick**:	I CANT FIND HARMONIA NOR DEMETER


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**Grknsssklick**:	and i am but teasing, but if we all become vegatarians will we de-evolve?


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**Churaviis**:	If you don't want to be a vegetarian then get some education so that you qualify for meals that include "meat"


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**Data-Redacted**:	Good use of quotation marks


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**jelutz77**:	absolutely


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**Grknsssklick**:	No education required, just proper use of tools, rifle, cages, axes and knives!!!


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**Grknsssklick**:	and BBQ pit!!


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**PootDoot**:	is phobos a good choice for starting metallurgists?


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**Grknsssklick**:	i dont have that knowledge, with 1 ext i get 11 SIO and 4 FEO every 27 hours


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**Grknsssklick**:	looks like you 6 ores every 6 hours so probably not


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**Grknsssklick**:	I think you win anywhere as your ner to station just not as good as other places could be


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**Grknsssklick**:	2 more rigs and 3 farms and I'll be looking to find a new place for 2nd base


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**Grknsssklick**:	think ill get manufacturer next


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**PootDoot**:	thanks, i was pretty confused as to where to expand/progress once i settle in


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**PootDoot**:	what do you mean by rigs?


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**Grknsssklick**:	rigs get liquids, collectors get gas, extractors get rocks, mineral / ores


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**Grknsssklick**:	rigs here get H2O


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**PootDoot**:	got it thanks, thought you meant some setup i wasn't aware of


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**Churaviis**:	Deimos is better for metallurgy as it has both ALO and O and a metallurgy COGC


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**Grknsssklick**:	i think you could survive in this game using the resource grabbers and selling what you collect, but processing is the fun part


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**PootDoot**:	yeah came back to this game after a while so a bit rusty


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**Grknsssklick**:	OOG, what would be the closest good planet for a manufacturer, BP and POL, plastics the food of machines!!


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**Grknsssklick**:	ack the evil governor,OOG is title? Churavis is name


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**Churaviis**:	Hephaestus is right next door and has a manufacturing COGC


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**Churaviis**:	OOG is my corporation, it's the ticker for Ooga Booga Capital Management, the biggest corporation in Antares


[04-Aug-23 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	For POL, you could use either Aurum - Elon, Antares II d, or Griffonstone


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**Hernanduer**:	evil governor? I say he's pretty fair


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**Hernanduer**:	:D


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**Data-Redacted**:	I've heard he's shredded


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**Data-Redacted**:	He's got a 7 pack


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**Churaviis**:	I'm as shredded as a Bernie Madoff financial record


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**Gilith**:	there are EV1L governors on some worlds, not on this one though :)


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**PootDoot**:	having a level 1 hq how many production queue slots i have?


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**Gilith**:	3 AFAIR


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**Cherrybark**:	@Atlas Just curious why you are proposing to change the CGOC Program to Chemistry on both Phobos and Nike?  Phobos has long been Electronics and Nike Construction.


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**Roh**:	I second that opinion.


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**Roh**:	:D


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**FInglan**:	I chose Phobos and Hephaistos, because Ele and Manu are so close together . Please leave them as they are.


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**Hernanduer**:	he always trolls his options unless they actually matter


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**Churaviis**:	Thanks to everyone who contributed to the COGC this week: galvorn, CoolAir and BlepCat


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**Churaviis**:	Also, don't forget to vote on the COGC, it's closer than usual


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**jelutz77**:	@Cherrybark I always vote Electronics on Phobos. It's been my favored COGC for this planet since the beginning of the universe. Nike though, I use for chemistry.


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**Hernanduer**:	heathen


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**Ravick**:	Put up some shipping ads on ANT CX for shipping to Phobos if any interested - thanks


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**Roh**:	finally some inter-Antares 1 shipping, nom nom nom


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**Hernanduer**:	intra?


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**Ravick**:	I think he intends to go through the planets :)


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**Komalarn**:	I need cople OVEs fast, if anyone could fulfill my LM ad, thx in advance :) Price should be premium


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**Churaviis**:	If you need something fast, be sure to say the delivery days to a single day, otherwise someone my take it thinking they have a few days to deliver, not having seen your message here


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**Komalarn**:	Good point ,thx


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**Emperyan**:	Got an efficiency question... I've got 5 electronic experts adding like 28% efficiency, full happiness and, well,  it's Phobos, but my SE production queue is only running at 73% efficiency. I'm perplexed, any thoughts?


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**xensored**:	Just open production --> new oder on SE and have a look on top for the efficiency factors, there you'll find the minus


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**xensored**:	I have 5 experts aswell and it should look like Engineers 100% + Production line condition 99% + electronicx experts 128% + CoGC program 125% = Overall efficiency 159%


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**xensored**:	just identify the value far below 100% and you know what happened. I assume missing repairs or missing ENG


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**xensored**:	or missing consumables...


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**Roh**:	lol, why is Swanada trying to fix the RAT market @ANT?


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**Emperyan**:	Thanks for the tip @xensored. It was lack of ENG, duh


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**Emperyan**:	Who knew understaffing would cause efficiency to drop?


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**Emperyan**:	(lol)


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**Cherrybark**:	Swanda doesn't seem to be trying to corner the RAT market, just establish a fixed price


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**Churaviis**:	That's the same thing


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**xensored**:	establishing a fixed high price for a T1 consumable hurts a lot of new players (all new people without own RAT). I really don‘t like those MM farmers who use their mass MM money for things like that. Same story like with Niegrozny some weeks ago and the H2O market. Stupid action against new players. But good thing to remember and add Swanada and GTU to my blacklist…


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**yngwette**:	100 pioneers paying 50aic more per rat is like 200aic/day, i think they will be fine


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**yngwette**:	it also won't last forever and has the eventual effect of making more people build their own fp and drive the rat price lower than it was before the buy wall went up


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**yngwette**:	you can be really inefficient in this game and still grow due to infinite resources. it's much more forgiving to new companies than real capitalism


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**Cherrybark**:	Not meaning to offend, but you're painting with a fairly broad brush there xensored.


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**RiseofFilth**:	An organization that tolerates a player's toxic behaviors that harm new players seems a fair target for blacklisting


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**xensored**:	Yes and it was first Taco some days before Swanada continued, both GTU players. So it isn't only one player, perhaps it is a recurring pattern or even a plan of the corp?


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**xensored**:	....that's the reason for the "broad brush"


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**Cherrybark**:	GTU is a very loosely organized group of players and haven't heard and Corp wide plans to dominate a market.  These two players seem to be enjoying a bit of mischief.  I expect the very fluid RAT market will adjust.  Perhaps sellers will learn this is a new acceptable price point.


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**EvoV**:	Proportionally, I think on average, newer players probably produce more rats than they consume. If that's true, then pumping the price, on average, helps newer players.


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[20-Aug-23 10:25 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	It sounds a lot like some presumptions around the whole 'inflation' talk that's been going around - Inflation can't really be a thing in this game without actively killing it since newcomers then get forced into a niché without much choice, resulting in far fewer sticking around because frankly it's dull as hell being told to follow a narrow path.


[20-Aug-23 10:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	And if that's considered mere 'mischief' then sure, it's just sad that it's rather likely to ruin the stage as a whole if it's kept going at length.


[20-Aug-23 02:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It's going to cause instabilility of one, or another form, for a course of one to a few weeks.


[20-Aug-23 02:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It's nothing major - it's why I jokingly pointed it out here, a few days ago.


[20-Aug-23 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	Ruh Roh


[20-Aug-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Has anyone considered the possibility that what Swanada is doing is not only profitable but sustainable?


[20-Aug-23 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	Yes


[20-Aug-23 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	It would take some concerted effort to counter it among RAT sellers


[20-Aug-23 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	And buyers...


[20-Aug-23 04:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	One effect this could have is pushing more volume through private contracts


[20-Aug-23 04:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	But the price of RAT at 9k/day for a typical base doesn't break the bank in most cases. A very slight increase in output price would cover that most of the time, so it's not high enough to "break" the game.


[20-Aug-23 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	So, it's in the range of financially tolerable, if on the high side. So if properly motivate, could keep it up relatively indefinetly.


[20-Aug-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	The one weakness is if this causes a shift so that there is an over supply of RAT, eventually it could drain the resources.


[20-Aug-23 04:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	But ... sellers would have to continuously avoid selling to him and keep a large supply just below his price


[20-Aug-23 04:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	At the end of the day, I suspect he can do this for as long as he wants and make bank doing it


[20-Aug-23 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	And his maintenance effort is low


[20-Aug-23 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**yngwette**:	if the economy overproduces RA


[20-Aug-23 04:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**yngwette**:	RAT by an appreciable amount, all it takes to move the price is people selling to swanda


[20-Aug-23 04:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Gilith**:	galaxy-wide daily production of RATs is 200k, WCB shipload is 10k RATs, so breaking through 100k bid barriers will take a while


[20-Aug-23 04:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dehzhas**:	RAT has a unique situation, it is harder to produce at scale than say DW. It's not just a shipping thing. HYF bases are expensive and you need HYF + FP to get to RAT. The HYF needs H2O and NS in, and outputs are bulky too. So, increasing RAT production quickly is difficult.


[21-Aug-23 12:19 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Aktme**:	he's buying for 158?  @ 189k... 30M? at 158 I can profit about 4200/day/FP on RAT from him.  Thats almost as good as what I'm making on SF. Hmmm


[21-Aug-23 12:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Aktme**:	6FRM/3 FP and 420 pioneers so 3 HB1s.  266 area?  So roughly 4 clusters?


[21-Aug-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Aktme**:	about 50k from a full base?  Nm, too costly in area.


[21-Aug-23 12:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	@Ogre its not profitable lol


[21-Aug-23 12:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	it may be sustainable, depending on how much money he's willing to sink into it, but it's not profitable


[21-Aug-23 12:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	If I had the liquidity, I'd do the same thing. Having to update my orders several times a day due to the constant influx of competition gets old, fast. Then again, I'm a food producer from Hortus, so I'm not really negatively affected by these shenanigans.


[21-Aug-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Absolutely profitable.  He is buying at 158 and selling at 159.   There is no room for someone to undercut him and the quantity is so high that it is unlikely anyone would buy him out.  Even if they do they'd be buying his stockpile at 159.  He can take his profit, wait for prices to come down then buy everyone out and do it again.


[21-Aug-23 12:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	do we believe in the holy law of supply and demand?


[21-Aug-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	and the equilibrium that results in a market price?


[21-Aug-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	yes, it's fairly simple


[21-Aug-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	One guy provides all of the supply and all of the demand.


[21-Aug-23 12:51 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	instant equilibrium XD


[21-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	if we believe in it, then what does a higher price do? it stimulates supply and reduces demand; now sure, you can say demand is fixed, but it still stimulates supply


[21-Aug-23 12:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	so then what happens? more people make RAT and sell it than actually need RAT


[21-Aug-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	so whoever is paying this premium is just building the biggest long position on RAT anyone has seen, building stockpiles on stockpiles


[21-Aug-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	how exactly thousands of RAT in your warehouse result in profits is a mystery to me


[21-Aug-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	You might think that, however there's plenty of colonies on barren planets that eat RAT like it's nothing.


[21-Aug-23 12:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	if it was profitable, trust me, I'd do it on every single good


[21-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Please do, FireFreak  :)  I'd like to see that.


[21-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	well its not profitable


[21-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	if it wasn't the case, basic consumable prices would be headed to rock bottom since day 0.


[21-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	I dont like giving away money


[21-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	I dont understand what youre saying Roh


[21-Aug-23 12:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	supply is still going up due to a higher price


[21-Aug-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	much faster than demand


[21-Aug-23 12:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	you cant evade the fact that more people will make RAT now that RAT is more expensive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[21-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**EvoV**:	It's possible that for a while, there was less rats produced each day, than was consumed. And the global stockpile of available rats (while large) was shrinking. In a situation like that, you could buy up all the rats, boost the price and keep making profit margins until production ramps up.


[21-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	yup, for a short while


[21-Aug-23 12:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	and in that case it would even be a good thing


[21-Aug-23 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	but this is not that


[21-Aug-23 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	(probably) :D


[21-Aug-23 12:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**EvoV**:	I don't know the motivations of why he's doing it, but I'm fine with it. And I don't know what the consume/supply/stockpile numbers were for rats, but that is a possible scenario where the actions would be proffitable.


[21-Aug-23 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	very true


[21-Aug-23 12:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	I don't see any reason to believe that anything other will happen than what happened to Niegrozny. Hundreds of thousands of water (RAT in this case) in a warehouse


[21-Aug-23 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	(in the long term)


[21-Aug-23 01:01 AM] ApexChat#8127
**EvoV**:	On the production side of RAT's... there's lots and lots of FP's out there currently producing DW or COF or FIM or MEA .... that can instantly switch over to RATs. So rat production isn't the bottle neck he'd be banking on, it's agri production. That can take time to spool up.


[21-Aug-23 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**EvoV**:	FRM planets aren't super plentiful, and large hyf projects are often limited by MHL availability. So I don't really see massive increases in agri production spooling up super quickly. And if it does... I'll bet that FIM goes through the roof.


[21-Aug-23 01:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**EvoV**:	And probably Carbon would have to go up a lot too I'd think.


[21-Aug-23 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**yngwette**:	where do locals do their HYFing anyway? harmonia seems like a waste of """good""" FRMland


[21-Aug-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	harmonia


[21-Aug-23 10:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	Demeter is for better farms


[21-Aug-23 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	HYFs necessaarily require extraction from a water-dense planet, or capability to ship in large amounts of the commodity, plus NS. Obviously, the former is preferable when you don't have much shipping capacity to beging with, but the latter is more tenable once you start upgrading your HQ/Fleet.


[21-Aug-23 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Depending on what you're after, a mix is pretty neat as well. I use Milliways & Nemesis for KOM, COF & a little bit of DW & RAT on the side


[21-Aug-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	To balance that need to use a somewhat odd recipe with MUS MAI & NUT though :P


[21-Aug-23 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Yeah it depends on what you want to use "farm worlds", but once the initial cost of startup/upkeep is no longer a concern, many more planets open up as potential venues of production.


[21-Aug-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Our corps 'true farmers' mostly use fertile land for orchards


[21-Aug-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Several of the unnamed core worlds in the Antares I system are ripe for such utilization, even through they are slightly underpopulated.


[21-Aug-23 12:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	And instead use HYF on remote little blocks without any soil at all


[21-Aug-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	For their RATs and all


[21-Aug-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	But Harmonia barely crosses my threshold for HYF utilization. I'd be more keen on using Phobos and Deimos for HER due to the low water requirements, and some sort of fertility being present on those worlds.


[21-Aug-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	I've got a pretty generous stretch of bases by now, Benten region has some solid fertile land winners


[21-Aug-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	If you're willing to go out that way


[21-Aug-23 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Ohh I know, the Benten region is a very strong contender in all regards, however I don't have the shipping capacity to stretch deep into that territory.


[21-Aug-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	If you're looking for a pure HYF just 2 jumps away from Etherwind - KW-020D is an option


[21-Aug-23 12:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	It's set up to help supply Milliways with materials more than anything though


[21-Aug-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Sorry, guess that's actually 3 jumps


[21-Aug-23 12:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Inforiel**:	Getting tired :D


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**Ravick**:	Put up a few shipping ads on ANT CX to Phobos if any interested


[22-Aug-23 08:10 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	@Ravick if you have a return shipment from Phobos, I can pick up the last one :3


[22-Aug-23 08:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Anyways.,..


[22-Aug-23 08:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It seems that Swaranda's RAT gambit has bitten into some flesh. concurrent orders from other large bidders has marginally increased the depth of the commodities in Moria, Hortus, and Antares


[22-Aug-23 08:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Having posted order dates on commodities would be a good addition for the future, as right now, you can't tell if the current postings are within several days, or months, of each other in duration.


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**jelutz77**:	Pick something trading high volume to start, like OVE. Make it a while, make some money at it, expand until the base is full. Don't bother extracting your own stuff on this planet; try doubling production instead to speed things up. Consider moving manufacturing to Heph to take advantage of the COGC there; maybe you can find another operation for this base that can help as well at that point.


[05-Sep-23 08:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	And especially with manufacturing, if you're not extracting your own, watch your input and consumables costs.


[05-Sep-23 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I am also a new manufacturer on Phobos.  I've focused most of my time and money into trade though, but like the idea of having a small base so that I can have a baseline of income regardless of the economy.  Manufacturing is working out alright for me, but I've had a low rate of return compared to trading.  Is it worth switching my base over to electronics production, or would it be better to rebuild somewhere else?  I'm open to any type of production but care most about the rate of return vs investment cost.


[05-Sep-23 10:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
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**Nomd**:	hey


[05-Sep-23 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Nomd**:	wow this game is confusin g


[05-Sep-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Nomd**:	who is ooga booga compan y or whatever? who runs that


[05-Sep-23 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Komalarn**:	ooga booga is corporation consisting of many players


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**Archiel**:	We have an informal leadership structure


[05-Sep-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Phobos is an electronics planet (that's the way the Chamber of Global Commerce votes), but that's a very difficult starting point.


[05-Sep-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Most of the intermediates for electronics aren't sold on the CX, they are instead consumed directly and turned into governor upkeep items, like MHP, or turned into spaceship parts, which have very large complicated chains


[05-Sep-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Incidentally, OOG does offer grants to players with pro who start (or move to) antares space, so if you end up liking the game, sticking around, and getting pro, message me :)


[05-Sep-23 11:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	The nearby planet Hephaestus has a manufacturing COGC, so you might eventually transition to that if you are continuing manufacturing.


[06-Sep-23 05:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Thanks for the info Archiel.  I'll try to reach out if I ever get pro.


[06-Sep-23 05:25 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I'm looking for higher volume items to produce, so it sounds like electronics probably isn't for me, so I'll start working on plans to move.  I'd like to keep my base in either this system or Benten's system (the other CX I trade at),  Do you know if there are any other good options for a new player other than manufacturing in either system?


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**Cherrybark**:	Insula... Etherwind, between Antares & Benten but a little closer to Benten, is a great place to make DW and every worker requires DW.  Start with balance of RIG to extract H2O and FP to process into DW.  Grow your 500 area base then consider moving FP to a new base on nearby KW-602c.  Etherwind COGC is Resource Extraction and 602 is Food Processing.


[06-Sep-23 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Cherrybark**:	@Archiel Requiring Pro for corporate grants is a nice filter


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[06-Sep-23 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	@Cherrybark Thanks for the suggestions.  I'll look into those planets.


[06-Sep-23 08:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Gilith**:	another good option: chemistry on Umbra. PG prices have been consistently high. it's a bit more work than Etherwind, you'll have to buy C, but PG is easy to transport in large quantities


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[07-Sep-23 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	why does anyone build a base on haphaestus? the soil is infertile and the only resources present are trace amounts of silicon


[07-Sep-23 11:27 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Because it has a Manufacturing COGC, which is a very profitable industry with many applications, several of which are critical to electronics


[07-Sep-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	And speaking as its Governor, Heph is the best Manufacturing planet out there ;)


[07-Sep-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Come join us, there is never enough PE or Plastics on market


[07-Sep-23 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	While I wish I could say it is best start, honesty requires me to cede that to Promitor, but that is only because of permit limits on planets


[07-Sep-23 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	interesting, ive only just started but im focusing on smelting silicon on phobos


[07-Sep-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	ive had a look and it seems like i could make some good money importing gold ore and smelting it, so ive got some future plans i think


[07-Sep-23 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I started on phobos as well, but as a manufacturer. Depending on how recent, a Smelting start on deimos is generally wiser as it is a Smelting COGC. But all areas can valid starts.


[07-Sep-23 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	smelting as a whole is very profitable


[07-Sep-23 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	deimos is flooding the market with cheap aluminium which i can use to smelt silicon for the time being without having to import expensive carbon


[07-Sep-23 11:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	oh I wish these were the days of cheap AL... back when it was 400/u


[07-Sep-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	well its still cheaper than carbon + oxygen at least


[07-Sep-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	strangely true


[07-Sep-23 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	inefficient for sure, given the extra production costs, but true. Just goes to show how excess C prices are atm


[07-Sep-23 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	any idea why carbon is so expensive now? lack of supply or what?


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[07-Sep-23 11:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Yep. Shortages. Thing is, carbon requires whole farms to produce, plus a RES planet to do it on (generally, for efficiency, but not required)


[07-Sep-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	So you need water(RES Planet) -> Farms(AGRI Planet) -> INCs (RES planet)


[07-Sep-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Not a lot of good setups for this when most people would rather use their farms to make RATs or other upkeep products that are expensive atm


[07-Sep-23 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	interesting...


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[07-Sep-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	That being said, if you find a good tri of planets, its very profitable


[07-Sep-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Atm, the big paring is Harmonia and Nascent in Antares (this region we are in)


[07-Sep-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Grow on harmonia and send to Nascent for INCing


[07-Sep-23 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	find your water locally or import


[07-Sep-23 12:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	Demeter -> Nascent can be better if you'd rather Harmonia -> Norwick for food


[07-Sep-23 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	This is true


[07-Sep-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**yngwette**:	hephaestus is like the best planet period


[07-Sep-23 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It does have a really nice orbital period


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[07-Sep-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	meh, I'd argue that you really don't have shortages.


[07-Sep-23 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	most commodity markets here have no price ceilings, along with most of the agri-export listings being surplus markets. You essentially get a intermediary commodity market which relies on price averages from subsidiary markets which are "made-up", and it leads to not only made-up margins, but also to margin-hoarding on the ask orders at the CX.


[07-Sep-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	if there was an actual shortage, you'd be hard pressed to find any C at any ask rates, via either the CXes, or the LMs.


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**Cherrybark**:	97


[09-Sep-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	Can I buy stuff by other currency in AI1 station?


[09-Sep-23 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	use ICA


[09-Sep-23 09:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	No, not at the Antares CX. There's no easy way to convert the small amount of foreign currency you're given at the start


[09-Sep-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	ok...


[09-Sep-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	thanks


[09-Sep-23 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	I found I can't do anything in start...


[09-Sep-23 09:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	no other contract, cannot buy/sell, cannot accept Ads jobs


[09-Sep-23 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	what can I do? just wait factory queue and fulfill starter contracts?


[09-Sep-23 09:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	This is a game you play while playing other games, especially in the beginning. Queue things up, set your ships to arrive when you'll be on next and then either learn or plan the game or turn it off until your ships arrive next.


[10-Sep-23 01:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**SoberDian**:	got it, thank you


[10-Sep-23 04:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**kriminal_krampus**:	Any advice on how to break into the electronics industry here?


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**Muc23**:	Antares station community Exchange, help with some trading ordrs, please


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[10-Sep-23 10:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I don't recommend electronics for a new player, it's very low volume and usually only usefull for supporting higher tier production chains or making upkeep for high tier planet governors.


[10-Sep-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	@Muc23 what help do you need?


[10-Sep-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Have you gone through the tutorials and beginner contracts?


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**kriminal_krampus**:	Duly noted. Thanks for the tip!


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**themisanthropicanthropologist**:	Dang thought the planet was full, lots of new folks.


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**Inforiel**:	Starter planet so it can go into ghost plots


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**Hernanduer**:	there's still 133 spots


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**themisanthropicanthropologist**:	whaaaaa? Oh crap wrong chat, lol


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**themisanthropicanthropologist**:	Thought this was deimos, I've repositioned all my stuffs


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**MerchSkele**:	hey on Phobos would anyone like to sell any carbon or plants for burning into carbon?


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[21-Sep-23 11:19 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	is there a way to speed up time?


[21-Sep-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	go to bed


[21-Sep-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Yes, all you have to do is find a black hole or other source of extreme gravity and then get near it


[21-Sep-23 11:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	haha yep that works


[21-Sep-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	ahh oke so the start of the game is mostly waiting


[21-Sep-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	till you have enough to sell


[21-Sep-23 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It's a game you play while playing other games. There's no pay to shortcut.


[21-Sep-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	start is very slow but game gets exponentially faster


[21-Sep-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	yeah that alright, ill be back tomorow to collect my goods


[21-Sep-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	you can speed up game also if somebody kickstarts you with a loan


[21-Sep-23 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	PRO feature btw


[21-Sep-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	ahh right, well thanks for the info


[21-Sep-23 11:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Strings**:	good luck


[21-Sep-23 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	There are workarounds to give loans to free accounts.


[21-Sep-23 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**melon164**:	?


[21-Sep-23 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**melon164**:	You can flip on CX, but that's painful


[21-Sep-23 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Hey, I flip on the CX and enjoy it. But I'm probably not the typical player.


[21-Sep-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	why do we have no local market


[21-Sep-23 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	its completely empty


[21-Sep-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	that's because I'm not PRO yet, sorry about that :(


[21-Sep-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	However, I'm planning on moving planets soon :(


[21-Sep-23 05:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	or eventually anyway


[21-Sep-23 07:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	We do have a local market: LM ZV-307d


[21-Sep-23 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**MerchSkele**:	indeed we do have a local marlet but not many use it


[22-Sep-23 04:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	We technically have LMs on ANT I planets, but maybe 1-2 people per month put listings on there, including shipping ads.


[22-Sep-23 07:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**kriminal_krampus**:	bit of a shame. could save everyone a lot of fuel if we could supplement certain things without needing to get into orbit


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[22-Sep-23 09:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**jelutz77**:	LM usage dropped a bit with the introduction of private contracts


[22-Sep-23 09:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Also, there are LM ads, they just get grabbed super quick as there are so many people with puddlejumpers and lots of extra shipping capacity


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**FreshFromage**:	@jelutz77 where would one make private contracts if not in the local market?


[22-Sep-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	A private contract is a contract sent directly to someone and avoids the LM altogether


[22-Sep-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	A related question I've been wondering is how most people network to find people to send contracts to. Do they usually just ask in the global chat?


[22-Sep-23 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	If you don't have a specific person with whom you want to trade the put an ad up where everyone can see it, on the LM


[22-Sep-23 11:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Also you need either PRO or BASIC to trade directly with other players through LM or direct contact


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[22-Sep-23 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Thanks Churaviis


[22-Sep-23 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It is a governor's duty to serve his citizens


[22-Sep-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	you have my vote


[22-Sep-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Thanks


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**Scorpium**:	looking for 10 x med and 10 x fim if anyone can help out? ads on LM


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**FreshFromage**:	cogc on strike?


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**Roh**:	It was filfilled a few minutes later. No more strike.


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**Marty82**:	production times still seem off, or do we have to wait a while before the cogc works again?


[26-Sep-23 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It's not the COGC, check your product order page to see the breakdown of efficiency factors


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Any producers out there looking for wholesale contracting to sell their goods?


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**MONEYMAKER_2.0**:	not currently


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**melon164**:	Producers of what?


[28-Sep-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	just about anything, for the right price :-)


[28-Sep-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I'm a CX trader who specializes in being a distributor.


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Generally, I buy all of a company's production to simplify their sales and allow them to expand more quickly to a larger market.


[28-Sep-23 05:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	\o/ Entrepreneurship!


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**FreshFromage**:	so when is the governor candidate debate


[28-Sep-23 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I have been advised that having a debate between me, myself and I in public would make me look crazy and possibly hurt the 100 point lead I currently have


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**FreshFromage**:	looks like we have a russian-style democracy here


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**Wyper7**:	voting is still in progress, why dont you run and present us with your plans?


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**kriminal_krampus**:	What do governers actually do, anyway?


[28-Sep-23 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I welcome competition but the upkeep for Phobos is quite complex and expensive. Just take a look at the infrastructure page and you can see all the different niche products I provide.


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**Wyper7**:	@Churaviis how about education program?


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**FreshFromage**:	where do i get my "I voted!" sticker


[28-Sep-23 03:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	We have an education program set up for the next POPR. We've got enough engineers but the demand for scientists is still high.


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**Wyper7**:	I was surprised when scientist gain dropped by half :(


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**Churaviis**:	Anyone can donate upkeep if they like


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**Wyper7**:	so I could "donate" to lower taxes maybe?


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**FreshFromage**:	i would vote to subsidise our fledgling matallurgy industry


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**ScipioKhan**:	I'm a victualler here.


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**FreshFromage**:	you wouldn't want the average hard working phobian man to become unemployed, would you?


[28-Sep-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Taxes already do not pay for all the upkeep OOG and I provide. I'm also certain that taxes aren't a large percentage of the value of what you make here.


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**FreshFromage**:	wait so you subsidise the planet out of your own pocket? for free?


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**FreshFromage**:	thats crazy generous


[28-Sep-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	though i suppose if it helps your own production here as well then its worth it


[28-Sep-23 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	What I subsidize is pocket change compared to the cost of not having enough workers for even a week. Phobos is an integral part of many complex production chains for OOG so we prefer to overpay to minimize that risk.


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**Wyper7**:	we appreciate the effort


[28-Sep-23 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	might as well give tiny donation


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**RiseofFilth**:	1 MCG later


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**Wyper7**:	1 MCG is too heavy, had to donate something that weights less


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**FreshFromage**:	being governor sounds like a lot of work


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**FreshFromage**:	do you at least get an opportunity to receive "donations" from "special interest groups" like real politicians?


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**ScipioKhan**:	@kapusta Thanks!


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**Sheperd12**:	How to get BSE ?


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**Wyper7**:	buy at CX


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**Sheperd12**:	Whats CX ? Im new haha


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**Wyper7**:	go through game tutorial, there should be part where it sends you to CX to do first trade


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**FreshFromage**:	CX = commodity exchange, basically the market for your local area


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**WiredSlumber**:	Any advice for a new player starting on this planet?


[02-Oct-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Sell all your FTL fuel and most of your STL fuel and use it to buy another production building in whatever industry you're specializing in


[02-Oct-23 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WiredSlumber**:	i see this planet is bonused for electronics, i assume that is more complex production


[02-Oct-23 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Yes, electronics is not recommended for new players as there are no low tier production buildings and everything else is low volume and doesn't sell much on the CX. That does free you up to pursue whatever industry you want


[02-Oct-23 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WiredSlumber**:	Are there any products I could be making with BMP that would be helpful in electronics manufacturing


[02-Oct-23 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WiredSlumber**:	Also is this planet focused on electronics because of silicon ore on it, is it worthwhile to mine that here


[02-Oct-23 03:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Phobos is super close to the CX so just focus on what you can sell there for the most profit. You'll need to do some math to figure out what that is and it will change based on many different factors. For example, PE is expensive but so is the carbon needed to make it.


[02-Oct-23 04:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Lanshara**:	you can take up any industry you like, there are no restrictions. The industry you picked when you started gives you the basics for that industry but most people will try several as they advance before settling on their preferences


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**FreshFromage**:	need 1 TRU asap, paying massively over ask price


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**Scorpium**:	Sold


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Any manufacturers out there looking for a regular manufacturing contract?


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[16-Oct-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Does anyone have a bit of MCG to finish off the COGC? I have a ship on the way but it won't be here in time.


[16-Oct-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	done


[16-Oct-23 11:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Thanks


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**masonwater**:	is almost everything in this game player made?


[16-Oct-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	almost everything


[16-Oct-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	the only exceptions I can think of are your starting materials, and whenever someone buys from the CX market makers.


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[16-Oct-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	What are all you new players making?


[16-Oct-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	uh, the tutorial gave me stuff to make 2 basic material plants to make MCG


[16-Oct-23 09:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	will the game always be 7 hour timers?


[16-Oct-23 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	well, different materials require different times. But in general, you set stuff up and then you wait. I hear the game gets more involved once you have more bases. I'm a CX/contracts trader though, so the pace of PrUn is quite different for me than for producers.


[16-Oct-23 10:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	many players check in once or twice a day and then go do something else though.


[16-Oct-23 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	will i ever get a chance to change my profession? i didnt really know what i was doing when i started and was mostly just clicking stuff to continue


[16-Oct-23 11:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Wyper7**:	starting profession is just starting package, you can do any industry you want, if you wish you can also restart with COLIQ command


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**jelutz77**:	The only things that happen with a starting package are that you get 2 experts in a particular field for your first base, and it selects the fabs for particular buildings for that specialty. Otherwise, you can grow as you wish. 2 experts don't even take long to get. However, if you're really behind because you have the fabs for the wrong buildings and your cash is invested improperly for what you now want to do, or something, you can COLIQ to start over.


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**Volixit**:	Hello, new dude here. I placed an order for 20 units of water but I'm a bit confused as to how I go about actually getting it. Do I have to wait for it to be shipped or something?


[18-Oct-23 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	You will need to send a ship to the CX to go get it, if you don't have a warehouse there then it will be in a contract (CONT on the left screen) You should start with a small amount of all the inputs you need


[18-Oct-23 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Volixit**:	Oh okay, awesome, thank you.


[18-Oct-23 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	A governor's duty is to serve


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Are any of you newer players with extra ships interested in regular shipping contracts?


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**masonwater**:	what does that entail?


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**Insula_Crisium**:	IIRC you'd have to have PRO or Basic to accept the contracts. I ship product regularly between Benten and Antares stations. The contract would give you the product and a certain amount of time to get it to the other station, then I would pay a set fee for the service.


[19-Oct-23 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Right now I have 14 shipments that need to go from Benten to Antares. I'm working on finding some from Antares to Benten, so that you don't have to fly back empty, but that one's harder.


[19-Oct-23 01:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
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[19-Oct-23 03:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	i believe you can accept without pro


[19-Oct-23 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	even better!


[19-Oct-23 03:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	ill try it out tommorow if there are any contracts out to benten ill take them and head out there


[19-Oct-23 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	err, actually in a couple days


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[19-Oct-23 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	You cannot accept contracts or LM ads unless you have Pro or Basic. A free account cannot make nor even accept contracts or LM ads, to prevent multi account abuse.


[19-Oct-23 04:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Ah, thanks for clarifying Governor!


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**RiseofFilth**:	https://media.tenor.com/GrG5z2W54vEAAAAC/team-pete-pete-for-governor.gif

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**masonwater**:	very close to coliq because not enought money to swap into different production :weary:


[20-Oct-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	if you do COLIQ, restart on promitor. Best start in the game as a farmer on a planet thats impossible to get on if you dont start there


[20-Oct-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FreshFromage**:	seems like everyone and their dog is getting into farming these days


[20-Oct-23 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	people gotta eat


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**masonwater**:	farming is easy, all you need is water, and then you can just make almost everything your workers need while making money


[20-Oct-23 10:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	just looking at production values, it seems like im not making any money from the profesion i had first picked without knowing anything about the game


[20-Oct-23 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Volixit**:	Any pro tips for metallurgy? I just started and making steel seems to me the most viable option for me right now but even that just barely goes over breaking even after you factor in fuel cost and consumables. Am I missing something?


[20-Oct-23 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Volixit**:	Plus the cost of buying carbon. One unit of carbon is practically dead even with the price of steel.


[20-Oct-23 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	yeah, the cost of carbon is high in Antares space for some reason.  I'm not really sure why tbh.


[20-Oct-23 04:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Volixit**:	How is carbon produced?


[20-Oct-23 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I just know the basics- plants are incinerated


[20-Oct-23 04:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Volixit**:	Is that a farming thing?


[20-Oct-23 04:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I guess?  Check out MAT C for details on the process.


[20-Oct-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	There aren't many good farming worlds in Antares so that makes it harder


[20-Oct-23 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
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[20-Oct-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	well, im gonna start producing carbon at some point, once my current production lines are dry for my BMPs im gonna deconstruct them and build farms/carbon furnaces


[20-Oct-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	also: can workers work without OVE?


[20-Oct-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	sure, you can give them barrels to wear instead


[20-Oct-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	it does make production hard because it's not very ergonomic


[20-Oct-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	lol who needs clothes, they should stitch some themselvs from the potato bags that come with the RATs


[20-Oct-23 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**masonwater**:	wow carbon is so expencive, like everwhere


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**Prynkolian**:	what am i supposed to do now


[21-Oct-23 01:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Make money


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**Roh**:	They don't get shipped with packaging. It's just a giant blob of compressed food.


[21-Oct-23 12:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	The glucoproteins form a nice mesh matrix to hold all the nutrients in a whimsical agar. Nothing gets wasted.


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**Brostoyevsky**:	what is this about glucoproteins? LARPing?


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**jelutz77**:	Farming in its state in Antares justifies more use of HYf


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[04-Nov-23 12:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	How's it going? I am a new manufacturer and trying to decide what industry to choose.


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[04-Nov-23 01:02 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Pretty good.  Market's a bit slow for us producing rations, but that's the life of a farmer I guess.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	As far as I'm aware, manufacturer's typically import their resources at the start, so you might need to do a bit of digging on the market to find something profitable.  I'll see what I can find.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	There's a large market for PE right now, though the cost of carbon is a bit on the high side.  You'll still make about 600 credits per work order.  That's option 1 that immediately sticks out.  Give me a few more minutes to find some other options as well.  Can never hurt to have options.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	There's MCGs which will bring in about 687 per batch.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	There is one more, but I'm hesitant to say it on a public channel for fear that the opportunity will disappear when the bigger companies take notice.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Thanks for the info. For PE and MCGs, is the cargo space factored into your number? I read that fuel is a big cost in the beginning.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Those two items are meant to be transferred easily.  It's less an issue of cargo space and more an issue of how long between shipments to market.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	PEs are only .01 t and .01 m, so you can fit 50,000 on your starting ship.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	for reference you make them in batches of 200.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Okay, I think I will go with PE then.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	MCGs weigh .24t and have .1 m so they're limited by weight. you can carry 2,083 of them.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	If you're worried about fuel costs, then try doing what I do and pick up a shipment contract to fill in the excess space.  They often cover the price of transport and can even just give you fuel outright.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Okay.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	I typically try to make a trip each week to make sure I cash in those contracts. It adds up fast early on.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Is it worthwhile to collect resources (rig, extractor, collector)?


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	In the early game, buying prefabs


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	eventually.  depends on how you want to manage your company really.  No "one size fits all" sort of deal with this game.  I will say though, this sector always has a market for carbon and silicon, so it could be worth investing if you have the cash, if only to save on some of the cost.  I personally recommend carbon, since it is a major factor in the cost of your PE.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Though, now that I say that... I suppose in your case that would just be an incinerator to save on worker space.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	All in all depends on the resource.


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	I think I will get a rig to help with farming


[04-Nov-23 01:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	That will overall save you some money on production costs.  It does take a bit of cash to start up so be ready for that.


[04-Nov-23 01:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	I see.


[04-Nov-23 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	that will probably save you about 400 per carbon, if you just use the incinerator, or nearly 500 if your willing to set up the whole chain. Keep in mind, that's in materials per work order.  Accounting for rations and drinking water... probably savings of 250 per work order.


[04-Nov-23 01:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Still, adds up.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	However, a word of warning, a lot of manufacturers make the mistake of trying to control the means of productions for everything, and forget to calculate the cost of feeding the workers and setting up the facilities and end up bankrupting themselves.  A calculator and patience will be your best friends in this game.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	That's why I mentioned carbon, due to the massive discrepancy between the price of production and the price of buying from the market.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Hmm... do you use spreadsheets to keep track of all these prices?


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Not yet, though I do plan on setting them up soon.  At the moment I check the prices directly then account for roughly what offers will still be open in a week's time.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	It takes about 5 or 6 minutes between each price check.  That's how I figured out it roughly takes 60 credits per ration that I make entirely from parts I source myself.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	That's a rough calculations based on weekly production, fuel expenses per trip, the price of basic water (which I source for my rigs) and subtract the rations consumed in the process.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Are all transactions between players, or are some provided by the game?


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	If you open the order book and see a market maker entry with an infinite number of orders, that is the game provided one which helps structure the market.  Then the faction contracts are also the game.  Everything else is players.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Got it. Anything else I should know? I've been looking for a game like this for a while. Thinking of designing my own space trading game as well.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	I can't really think of anything else at the moment.  If you ever need any help, there's this chat or the global one, though the global one might not be relevant to our commodity exchange.


[04-Nov-23 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Okay, thanks for your help.


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**Insula_Crisium**:	@lukeskye I've done trading in multiple games, and this one is definitely my favorite.  The markets are very interesting, and the community is great.


[04-Nov-23 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ElDonad**:	Hello people of the galaxy ! A small question, the guide specifies that in the CXP panel the "traded" is the volume exchanged for the day, but that can't be right, as for example for MG.AI1 the chart shows no trade today, but the "Traded" amount is not zero...


[04-Nov-23 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ElDonad**:	Is it perhaps the volume traded the day before ?


[04-Nov-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	That's a very good question, one that would be really helpful for me to know as well.


[04-Nov-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Looking at that price chart, looks like something in the range of 760 MG.AI1 traded on Nov 2.  Perhaps that metric is for the last two days or something?  That would be weird though.


[04-Nov-23 11:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	TBH, I generally ignore the stats on CXP.  They're not generally that helpful IMO, compared to looking at CXOB and CXPC.


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[04-Nov-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ElDonad**:	Yeah, I had to read a bit how to read the price chart, but now I think I get it.


[04-Nov-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	yeah, it takes some practice at first, but once you get it, it's very informative


[04-Nov-23 12:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I do trading and before I enter a market, I analyze CXPC, and it generally provides me what I need to know up front, so that I know the risks.


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**lukeskye**:	Good afternoon all.


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**AbstractArtist4081**:	hi


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Welcome to Phobos :D


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**Frek**:	hopefully this station dosnt see any proto molecules


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**kriminal_krampus**:	I still gotta finish reading that series


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**MerchSkele**:	welcome to phobos ya'll!


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**AbstractArtist4081**:	Hi


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**Insula_Crisium**:	o/


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**AbstractArtist4081**:	Anyone need Poly-Ethylene?


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**VoxZer0**:	howdy


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**VoxZer0**:	i'm a bit lost


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**lukeskye**:	With what specifically?


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**VoxZer0**:	i'm just starting out, got the first contract to make exo work suits


[08-Nov-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	but i'm missing materials


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**VoxZer0**:	and idk how to get them


[08-Nov-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	You can buy materials at the exchange, you'll need to send your ship there to pick them up.


[08-Nov-23 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	For me there was a contract that explained how to do that.


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**VoxZer0**:	i guess i didn't get one like that


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**VoxZer0**:	i don't know how to move my ships


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	On the top left change screen to 'travel', then there should be a 'fleet' window with your ships, and under the 'command' header, click fly. Then select Antares Station as the destination.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	First unload your cargo if it is full though.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	oh i forgot this game uses real time


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**VoxZer0**:	this is gonna be nearly 9 real hours


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Yes. I don't know if there is a way to return automatically. At the station you can open a warehouse and store goods that you've bought.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	you like by it or do you need materials to make one?


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	buy**


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	They are rented, it was quite cheap for me.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	how long is the rental for?


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**lukeskye**:	weekly


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	gotcha


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	I started last week, spent everything on carbon and hydrogen to make PE plastic.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	what specialty did you pick


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Manufacture


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**VoxZer0**:	word


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	You'll also need to buy some supplies: rations, drinking water, overalls, unless you intend to make them yourself.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	There is no auto return.  Also, hey lukeskye, how goes the manufacturing?


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**VoxZer0**:	alright then, see you folks in 8 and a half hours


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**Pacific982**:	why does phobos keep drawing in all the manufactorers?


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**idenios**:	Hi Veronica!!


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**VoxZer0**:	cause it says phobos is good for manufacturing when you pick your faction


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**idenios**:	<3


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**Pacific982**:	Oh, it might be because the exchange is right next to us.


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**lukeskye**:	It's going well, pacific. I am making a bunch of PE, with a side hustle of spicy herbs.


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**idenios**:	Guys I got my girlfriend to play this game with me!


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Nice.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Well that's great.  More people is always better.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**idenios**:	I'm just doing this to embars her rn


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**VoxZer0**:	alright now i really gotta get back to studying, see y'all later


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**lukeskye**:	Question: if there is a lot more demand than supply, does the price tend to go up?


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**Pacific982**:	Later Vox.


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**Pacific982**:	Sometimes.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Depends on the item in question and whether big corporations start producing in house.


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**lukeskye**:	Okay. What are you making now?


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Rations, Drinkable Water, and Raw Cotton Fibers.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Two things that can only be cheaply produced on some worlds, and one people like to refine.


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Nice. Are you doing any trading between exchanges?


[08-Nov-23 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Not at the current moment.  While it can be worthwhile, they all use different currencies.


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**Pacific982**:	Current plan is to expand to 4x the production, then refine the cotton and produce carbon.  Should take 3 or so months.


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**lukeskye**:	Hmm, I'm looking to get into exchange trading once I get enough cash to carry a full load.


[08-Nov-23 11:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Ah yes, the life of a travelling merchant I see.  Only real risk is that you would be subject to the fickle whims of the market.


[08-Nov-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Yes. Can you tell how long it takes to get to Moria? I sold all my FTL fuel


[08-Nov-23 11:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	one sec


[08-Nov-23 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	It will take 292 units of FTL fuel to get there, and take 2 days.


[08-Nov-23 11:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Thanks.


[08-Nov-23 11:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Absolute minimum amount of FTL fuel is still 195 units at 2days and 8 hours.  You will need to carry excess fuel or buy it at your destination.


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Yes, I will buy it.


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	I have discovered that I can buy aluminum for 3.5 mushrooms here and sell it for 5 at Moria.


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Aluminum to mushroom trade? well, it does look profitable at least.


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	With a max cargo of 180 AL,  that is around 43K in mushroom profit, -6k in fuel leaves 37K profit in 4 days.


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	That's pretty good.  How much of that is in which currency though?


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	It's in AIC.


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**Pacific982**:	does that mean you're buying the fuel here then?


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**lukeskye**:	The price is the nearly same here and there.


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**Pacific982**:	Yeah, but they use NCC


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**lukeskye**:	On average looks cheaper there.


[08-Nov-23 11:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Yes, I will sell the aluminum for NCC and buy fuel with it.


[08-Nov-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Alright, just checking because this is one of those areas that can trip people up.


[08-Nov-23 11:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Okay. Is there any way to take out a loan?


[08-Nov-23 11:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	If you have pro or basic (which you get if you get pro and don't renew it) you can set up a contract with another player for a loan.


[08-Nov-23 11:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Nice.


[08-Nov-23 11:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Honestly, at this point, if you get pro you might be better off running a wholesale business, where you use contracts to directly buy from corporations and sell to others or on the exchange at a higher price.


[08-Nov-23 11:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	either way, lots of ways to play.  I just farm and handle my faction contracts.


[08-Nov-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	Makes sense.


[08-Nov-23 11:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	I just understood what you meant by the fuel.


[08-Nov-23 11:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lukeskye**:	I checked the price ratio of AL to FF here and there, and it is 20% better there, so even more profit.


[09-Nov-23 12:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Also, remember that if you feel the sell orders are a bit too low, you can make a new order in the order book by placing you sell price above the highest price, at which point you just store it onsite or leave the ship there until the order is filled.


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**lukeskye**:	Makes sense. I'll tell you how it went next week.


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**VoxZer0**:	howdy y'all


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**jelutz77**:	howdy


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**VoxZer0**:	if someone can help fill out my orders, i'd greatly appreciate it


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**VoxZer0**:	much obliged to those who helped


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**Scorpy.**:	Hey yall im new


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**Scorpy.**:	Wanted to ask the benefits of joining a corp and how to do it


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**Scorpy.**:	Its invite only correct?


[09-Nov-23 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Welcome new players!


[09-Nov-23 11:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	For all the new folks, if you end up enjoying the game and buying pro, I offer $250,000 development grants to new players who are staying in ANT space. Just message me in-game or in discord.


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**Archiel**:	250,000 AIC is usually enough to fill out your starter base. Phobos is a tougher place to start due to the electronics COGC, but there are lots of options in ANT space in general!


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**Lilocorp**:	when i buy things from an exchange, where do i pick up the items?


[10-Nov-23 06:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	the exchange


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**Lilocorp**:	oh lol im stupid


[10-Nov-23 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Lilocorp**:	ty


[10-Nov-23 07:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Man, Phobos is getting more active lately.


[10-Nov-23 07:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Also, why does it seem like some companies are trying to artificially inflate the prices of goods?  I'm looking at RCO orders right now, and the first thing I see is Interstellar Gaia buying at 750 then selling it back at 1000.


[10-Nov-23 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	What is inflating the price there?


[10-Nov-23 07:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	he's buying low and selling high


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**Wyper7**:	trading 101


[10-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Its on the exact same commodity exchange, and he set the price high enough that those goods aren't going to be sold for months, effectively trapping goods in the market while starving smaller companies.  As a result people have to start paying more or sacrifice valuable building space to produce it themselves.


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**FireFreak**:	I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[10-Nov-23 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	everyone has stockpiles to some extent, some more, some less


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**FireFreak**:	RCO consumers can cry about it while RCO suppliers can rejoice in more profits


[10-Nov-23 07:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Pacific982**:	Note, he did this with carbon too, which just a few weeks ago I was hearing that people were having trouble acquiring here due to the price.


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**FireFreak**:	sounds like yall need to make more C then


[10-Nov-23 07:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	if its that costly to buy


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**Churaviis**:	They did a promotion recently so there are lots of new players buying things


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**VoxZer0**:	any of y'all have a medium fastener kit?


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**Scorpy.**:	[OOG] Churaviis There was a yt video i saw and i literally got this game and didnt watch the vid lmao


[10-Nov-23 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	There was a promo i just couldnt tell y wo


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**Scorpy.**:	who*


[10-Nov-23 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	@Pacific982 Interstellar Gaia is a competitor of mine. We're both spread traders- we buy low and sell high on the same commodity at the same CX. I hope you're not implying that spread trading is inherently manipulating the market. It IS true that some people do spread trading and try to manipulate the market. Someone did that with RAT.AI1 a couple months back and inflated the prices up to about 140 AIC, but they failed to maintain a permanent price fix. But most of the activity I've seen from Interstellar Gaia is not that, just trading for goods within the well-established price ranges.


[10-Nov-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Spread trading, when done without trying to manipulate, is good for the market. It decreases the bid-ask spread, which means that players wanting an instant sale have a more favorable price. It also increases price stability by adding more buy/sell orders to the CX.


[10-Nov-23 11:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I don't know the RCO market though, so I'm not sure whether that activity was manipulative, but at first glance his activity seems within the normal price ranges.


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**idenios**:	If you increase order size on a production order, are you able to collect any of the resources as they are produced or only when everything is finished?


[10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	the former


[10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	uuuh


[10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	the latter


[10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**idenios**:	I recently calculated how much of a bunch of resources I need for my carbon production and was considering doing mass orders of the amount I need at the beginning of each week


[10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**idenios**:	So only when the entire order is finshed?


[10-Nov-23 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	yup


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**Pizza_Pineapple**:	sup


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**Pizza_Pineapple**:	i'm gonna start an illicit banana company in space


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**FreshFromage**:	this is not the best planet to grow bananas


[10-Nov-23 03:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pizza_Pineapple**:	well my friends are here so that's why


[10-Nov-23 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Hey, I'm looking for an SCN.AI1 supplier.  Does anyone here make them?


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**jelutz77**:	I make them on Elon


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**VoxZer0**:	any of y'all got the medium fastener or nah


[10-Nov-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	There are plenty of MFK on the CX and it's only a few hours away in the same system, just buy them there


[10-Nov-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	i placed an order for them, is there a way to just buy them outright?


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[10-Nov-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	A trade doesn't occur until a buy and ask at the same price are placed. If you want it right away then place a buy order at the price of the lowest cost ask order.


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**VoxZer0**:	isn't the lowest cost ask order for like bidding and stuff?


[10-Nov-23 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	In order to trade, two players must agree on a price. If no one agrees with your price, no trade can occur


[10-Nov-23 10:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**VoxZer0**:	got it


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**AbstractArtist4081**:	Hi, how do I take back a Ad


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**FireFreak**:	LMOS


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**VoxZer0**:	hey guys


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**VoxZer0**:	if any of you guys could sell me a medium fastener kit, i'd really appreciate it


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**VoxZer0**:	been tryna do this contract for 2 days and i can't move forward without it


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**VoxZer0**:	nvm


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**lukeskye**:	hello all


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**Scorpy.**:	howdy\


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**VoxZer0**:	howdy


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**Scorpium**:	add for 400 DW on LM if anyone can help me out?


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**AbstractArtist4081**:	What is LM?


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**FireFreak**:	local market


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**Scorpy.**:	Buying some basic prefabs with good prices on LM


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**FreshFromage**:	i dont think people produce prefabs here


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**FreshFromage**:	better to post the ads on antares station or on a construction planet


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**Churaviis**:	There are lots of puddlejumpers in the Antares system, if you buy the fabs on the CX and then post an ad on the CX' LM to ship them here then you'll probably get them faster.


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**Scorpium**:	omg.. someone else calls ships puddlejumpers too! :D


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**ChristoAmor**:	Holy smokes, i got my HB3s down seconds before the POPI


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**ChristoAmor**:	*Pop report i mean


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**lukeskye**:	Is that good or bad?


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**ChristoAmor**:	Good, my production is at 100% righy away :)


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**Lanshara**:	bad is when you miss by a few seconds and have to wait a week for them to turn up


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**ChristoAmor**:	Agreed xD


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**lukeskye**:	I see.


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**Scorpy.**:	If anyone has a ship at CX i got a 1t package for $500 to phobos.


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**Obie**:	hi


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**Insula_Crisium**:	\o


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**Scorpy.**:	buying water and rats over market price check LM


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**Obie**:	Meow


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**Churaviis**:	No cats allowed in the cleanrooms!


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**Obie**:	Meow?


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**Irmond_Sei**:	Well Then


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**CrayZonday**:	Hey all!


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**Circle_of_Life**:	Hello! Cheers to your galactic expansion adventures


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**Ghoulnet**:	anyone offering shipping from ANT?


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**Ghoulnet**:	dest phobos


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**Ghoulnet**:	LF shipping 8.4 tons ANT --> Phobos, 100AIC


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**AngerHawk165**:	i can


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**Scorpy.**:	buying 100 oxygen LM 9500


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**Dirk_Diggler**:	emergency DW buy on the lm :)


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**Komalarn**:	filled :)


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**Dirk_Diggler**:	tyty


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**Ghoulnet**:	Ambitious new player looking for a loan for a new base! Please PM if interested!


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**Aman4672**:	sup local chat


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**xensored**:	@Ghoulnet I'll send you a contract


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**Ghoulnet**:	If anyone has ships leaving from ANT to Phobos in the next day, I just put up a bunch of shipping contracts on ANT LM


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**Scorpy.**:	damn missed me by an hour


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**Scorpy.**:	Phobos to AI1 3k for 200t delivery


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**Scorpy.**:	Under B rating


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**Pamplemoufle**:	Bonjour, y a t-il des francophones ?


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**Scorpy.**:	Je ne connais pas le français, j'utilise Translate.


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**MapoDoufu**:	Bonjour


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**Ghoulnet**:	no mais ca va etre les allemagnes bientot


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**AngerHawk165**:	Does anyone want to buy 40 carbon every 6 days?


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**Scorpy.**:	6 SI 12k AIC on LM


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**Laichonious**:	So what's all this about a strike at the CoC? To be honest, I haven't been paying close attention to the upkeep, though I will donate when I think of it/can


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Lanshara**:	Just that the upkeep wasn't fully made before it was due


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It's taken care of


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Lanshara**:	as soon as the contribution is completed the strike will be over


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Laichonious**:	Nice, I threw some DW and RAT in there to help out :)


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Lanshara**:	usualy it's just due to somebody starting a base and changing the requirements just before the upkeep is due


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Laichonious**:	oh that's funny, I guess it could make sense to set a buffer time like 48hs from when the requirements were met where they can't change, but I can see why they are doing it this way too, less complex


[05-Dec-23 02:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Circle_of_Life**:	Oh that makes sense, good to know


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**mute**:	hey everyone, can i build something even if i dont have enough workforce? i have 40 available i would need 50


[06-Dec-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mute**:	i would assume so but it wouldnt work a full efficiency


[06-Dec-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	yup


[06-Dec-23 06:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mute**:	cool thanks!


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**Quinnell**:	Helloooo Phobos! It's a fine Wednesday.


[06-Dec-23 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	\o   sure is!


[06-Dec-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	Meh


[06-Dec-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	College deadlines are coming up and im a master procrastinator


[06-Dec-23 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	its catching up to me xD


[06-Dec-23 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Buying 10 FLUX on LM. Checkout fellas Phobos


[06-Dec-23 10:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	PM Nagotiable price for further private contracts.


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**kriminal_krampus**:	feliz jueves my fellow resource exploiters


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**Quinnell**:	I like my workers like I like my resources.  Exploited.


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Any carbon farmer here? looking for contract.


[08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	PM for further contract


[08-Dec-23 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AngerHawk165**:	sent you one


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**Churaviis**:	I reccomend Harmonia for growing things and Nascent for burning them into carbon


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**BigFloppaSimp**:	is there a way to do a hard reset?


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**Hernanduer**:	idk what's happening to my text. Type in COLIQ in a new buffer


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Any FLUX selling here? I urgently need 10


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	what is flux MAT sign ?


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	FLX


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	ah shit, no sorry


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	FLX.AI1


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	why do you need flx for ?


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Smelter goes brrrrrrr


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Btw what's your proficient?


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	I see I see


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	my what ?


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Your production line


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	ohh well it's a mess first of all


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	and it's fuel for some stupid reason


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	I also do MCG


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	I also which to REP when I have the mats


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	I see. If you looking for any metal commodity PM me


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	I have my supply don't worry


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**FUC_Prozer**:	a friend is a RAT and DW maker and another make Bxx and all kind of smeltery stuff


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	I just support them with fuel


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Nice team


[12-Dec-23 08:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FUC_Prozer**:	slow and the profit is not for me but yeah


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**Rwinner16**:	hey gov... we got peeps needing SCI's.........


[13-Dec-23 06:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	Some a-hole came in and lopsided the demand. Said a-hole plans on dropping needs for 300 more


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**Churaviis**:	Education programs are already in place and upkeep is being maintained


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[13-Dec-23 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	just giving you a hard time :P. No way any GOV can be prepped for a 600 SCI jump in demand. I don't know of any planet, other than Prom, that could handle that.


[13-Dec-23 12:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	Circe*


[13-Dec-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	And Malahat of course…


[13-Dec-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	oh hell, that may be my next SCI endeavor. I never looked at that planet. I don't honestly know if the CX's can keep up with the SCI demands though. Feeding these 900 will be hard


[13-Dec-23 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	Then Malahat and Jeetiyu could be your next target, both could handle a lot of SCI


[13-Dec-23 12:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**xensored**:	But feeding from CX can be a problem ;)


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Which commodities are the most challenging to feed from the CX for SCI?


[13-Dec-23 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	Supply wise? WIN and MEA were for me earlier. CX didn't have enough of either for me to fill my base to my reserve goal. Didn't want to empty CX, so I only took like half.


[13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	That's nice of you. :-)


[13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	If you have future issues getting enough MEA, I have a huge supply and have a hard time selling it.


[13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I haven't traded in WIN yet, but I have in most of the more common consumables.  Maybe one day I'll be able to supply all consumables to be a one-stop shop.


[13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	My demand inquiry today for MEA was just shy of 3000.


[13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	It's unfortunate that I sold off a lot of my MEA stock yesterday.  I probably had 1000-1500 of that.


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[13-Dec-23 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I messaged you directly so I don't clog up the chat here :D


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**Circle_of_Life**:	basic prefabs for sale on LM    //  and buying some iron if anyone has spare


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**ROGUE_HX**:	got 20 FE


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**Ghoulnet**:	Posted some shipping ads from Phobos to ANT on LM :)


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**FUC_Prozer**:	1d delivery for 2500 it's not amazon here yo :D


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**Scorpy.**:	if u need more shipping done lmk Im actually amazon


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**Ghoulnet**:	It could always be extended, I didn't know what to put since ANT is nearby


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**Scorpium**:	need 400 dw if anyone can help ad on LM


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**Churaviis**:	I got you


[17-Dec-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpium**:	thank you very much on behalf of my slackers :)


[17-Dec-23 08:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	That's what a governor is for


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**matklug**:	i'm planing to build a FS, to who i sell the stuff?


[17-Dec-23 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**matklug**:	there is no demand on the CX


[17-Dec-23 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	There's plenty of demand for UTS, if you've got the FE for it


[17-Dec-23 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Frankly, you'll probably want to start with something more basic. Vertical integration is the key to profitability in this game


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**matklug**:	what i can build in eletronics? since this is the planet bonus


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**FireFreak**:	BS -> Construct -> expertise is listed there


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**Archiel**:	So if new players starting on Phobos want to build software, I will buy LD and SAL directly (4000 AIC per SAL and 6000 per LD). The difficulty there is that the buildings 1xHB3 and 2xSD is about 500,000 AIC, which is tough for a new player


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**Churaviis**:	I do not recommend electronics when starting out


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	...Unless you can get a loan from an established player.


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**Archiel**:	Yeah, I agree. You should have a loan and probably a plan/agreement to sell whatever you're making


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**Numsgil**:	Cleanrooms are also an option.  There are a few profitable options that make it attractive


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**Numsgil**:	Probably can't scale it to like dozens of CLR, though.  Pretty easy to overproduce


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**Rwinner16**:	I have 30 SL's on Phobos if anyone needs to rent some production time. Rates are pretty reasonable, IMO. I base it off the MM rate of IDC (18k/24hrs).


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**Domicius**:	Good to know.


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**HARDTOKILL**:	hello anyone there?


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**HARDTOKILL**:	I am new sorry


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**Churaviis**:	Follow the tutorials, Seapear has videos on Youtube, or search the wiki, then if you have any further questions go to the discord


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**HARDTOKILL**:	I am already set up, producing PE and MCG. Is place orders on the local market cheaper than flying to the exchange for input resources and consumables.


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**Numsgil**:	there aren't any orders on the Phobos local market currently.  If there were, you'd need to have a PRO account to buy/sell there.  They generally aren't cheaper than the CX, it's more a way to give people spot resources if they're low or to do trades with other players.  Most of the time you'll be buying and selling from the CX


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**RockCarcass3087**:	Is it worthwhile to build an extractor on the planet, or should I just import silicon ore?


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**HARDTOKILL**:	if anyone want to pay for shipping message me I have a small ship free


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**MerchSkele**:	Merry Holidays ya'll!


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**lukeskye**:	Happy holidays.


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**lukeskye**:	@rockcarcass3087 it can definitely be worthwhile, prunplanner.org shows an ROI of 8 days for me.


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**HARDTOKILL**:	so my PE production is stuck a 100% is this normal?


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**FireFreak**:	your operating system's time is likely off


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**HARDTOKILL**:	it is correct for my time zone?


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**FireFreak**:	probably not


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**I_am_Tex**:	Try refreshing your browser


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**HARDTOKILL**:	ok setup automated time, fix problem, but didn't change time on my computer at all as was already correct for timezone.


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**HARDTOKILL**:	I am confused? but problem solved I guess.


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**Rwinner16**:	There has been lag delays on items on/off for days. I had a CX order that was fulfilled, but showed an open sell/buy at the same price for an hour before the system processed it


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**edolix**:	Can anyone please help? In my contract it says to pick up some water from my base planet. How do I do that?


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**ROGUE_HX**:	If you accept the contract and fulfilled the upper part. You can claim it.


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Or if the quest ask you to send officer then you have to pile it up in your storage then submit in contract menu.


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**I_am_Tex**:	Is the fulfill button in the contract green?  If so, just click it.  If it isn't, we need to explore why it isn't green.


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Any FLUX supplier here? PM please i need private contract


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**ROGUE_HX**:	ADS : Any FLUX producer here? Please private contact for future private contracts.


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**MerchSkele**:	Happy new year all of you!


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**meowdude**:	yes, a very happy new year


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**Game_Fax**:	hola


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**Churaviis**:	Bienvenidos a Phobos


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**lukeskye**:	Looking to buy some technician consumables on the LM.


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**TuffyLess**:	got 'em


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**lukeskye**:	Thanks.


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**Rwinner16**:	I have 30 SL's on Phobos if anyone needs to rent some production time. Rates are pretty reasonable, IMO. I base it off the MM rate of IDC (18k/24hrs).


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**yoanpenov553**:	hello


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**marismols**:	hi


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Looking for FLUX.AI1 supplier. PM for private contract


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**Thije_**:	Hello


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome


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**Dragonv2**:	hi


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**Dragonv2**:	ty


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**T-Tone**:	whats up my fellow phebans


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**Hernanduer**:	sup two tone


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**Hernanduer**:	tommy two tone


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**T-Tone**:	not much, just making a new company after being away for what, 3 years?


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**T-Tone**:	been a while


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**Hernanduer**:	well welcome back


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**T-Tone**:	yeah


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**T-Tone**:	Yo, man, you basically took over this planet props


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**Hernanduer**:	I took it over? I don't see how


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**Hellsxnt**:	anyone out there??


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Yupp


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**ROGUE_HX**:	welcom to Phobos


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**T-Tone**:	phobing


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**MerchSkele**:	sup


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**T-Tone**:	nothing much hbu


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**Hellsxnt**:	so im confused, i bought some overalls about 5 hours ago


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**Hellsxnt**:	now what do i do to get them??


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**FireFreak**:	send your ship to the CX if you bought them there


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**T-Tone**:	hmm


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**T-Tone**:	guys contribute to the planet or they will evict us like a singile mother of four in new york


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**Hellsxnt**:	so i placed an order for some overalls and idk how to grab them


[14-Jan-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hellsxnt**:	i landed my ship at cx but how do i know if the order is ready


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**Hellsxnt**:	just says "placed"


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**marismols**:	placed means its not ready


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**marismols**:	it should say filled


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**marismols**:	and then you will have the stuff in your inventory


[14-Jan-24 04:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	If you buy stuff then set your price the same or higher than the offer price. Otherwise order will not be filled immediately.


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**I_am_Tex**:	Yeah....your order is at 90....it is currently the second highest bid and is waiting to be filled.


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**I_am_Tex**:	The ask is 99.60, which has 1920 units readily available.  So you either have to pay 99.60 or wait for someone to sell at 90.


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**I_am_Tex**:	Fortunately .... I make OVE .... and boom


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**I_am_Tex**:	BTW, welcome to the game and to Phobos!


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**Hellsxnt**:	tysm @i_am_tex


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**Crazick**:	I am so confused.


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**Archiel**:	welcome and enjoy Crazick :D


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**Hellsxnt**:	can you search an item up at comod exchange?


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**Hellsxnt**:	i need a medium fastener kit but idk what genre its under, just wanna know if there is a faster way to find it


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**FireFreak**:	MAT MFK will tell you what category its under


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**FireFreak**:	you cant search in the CX interface, sadly


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**T-Tone**:	no fucking way firefreak is on the same dirtball as me


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**lukeskye**:	@hellsxnt You can use direct commands in a buffer: CXPC, CXPO, CXOB with the code after each.


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**Chrislon**:	where can i find the smelter?


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**lukeskye**:	To build or to get more info?


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**Chrislon**:	to build it. that was fast btw ty :D


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**lukeskye**:	No problem. To build, look at your base view, there are buttons, click on construct, and then pioneer tab.


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**Chrislon**:	pioneer? must have overlooked it


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**Chrislon**:	found it there ty :D


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**lukeskye**:	Sure thing.


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**Chrislon**:	what can i do as a brand new player when my production line is full?


[17-Jan-24 11:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Full as in you're just waiting on your production and have nothing else to do?


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**Insula_Crisium**:	If you have Pro, you could accept shipping contracts and make some good side money that way.


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**Insula_Crisium**:	If you have a small amount of reserve cash, you could also start trading on the CX, which takes a lot of time


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**Chrislon**:	i do not have pro and i am w8ting for production line to finish.


[17-Jan-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Read the tutorials, the wiki, plan your next moves or just play a different game. This is a game you play while playing other games.


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**Scorpium**:	emergency rat and dw buy orders on LM.. paying 40k and 30k if anyone can help?


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**Numsgil**:	I sold you some RAT.  I don't have enough DW on hand presently


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**Numsgil**:	For the future, the RAT contract was basically for at-cost.  I filled it because I'm nice, but if you price in more of a bounty it helps motivate people


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**Ravick**:	I got your DW Scorpium


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**Scorpium**:	thank you both. Will bear the cost in mind next time ty


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**T-Tone**:	wish someone else with a pro acc could run for phobos, feels pretty one sided rn


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**lukeskye**:	What issues do you have with our current governor?


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**TuffyLess**:	yeh really, esp within the last 7 days?  ya know, the age of your account.


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**T-Tone**:	strawberry flavour is cool and a


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**T-Tone**:	*all, but choclate once in a while is cool too


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**TuffyLess**:	uh huh.  no need to fix what isnt broken


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**T-Tone**:	im not gonna argue with you seeing you are going to defend oog


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**T-Tone**:	without thinking about alternatives


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**TuffyLess**:	ok, sure.  welcome to PrUn nonetheless and good luck


[19-Jan-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	If anyone else wants to try running Phobos they're welcome to try but many of the upkeep items are not readily available on the CX in the quantities needed regularly and would have to be produced in house or purchased from me since I already produce them.


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**Churaviis**:	I already subsidize Phobos upkeep so a new governor would either need to subsidize it as well or raise taxes significantly


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**Churaviis**:	I took on Phobos as a challenge and to make sure OOG had the workers necessary for our high tier electronics production lines. I guarantee a penny-pincher will do far worse here.


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**lukeskye**:	Well said. I am content to simply pay taxes and let others manage the details.


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**FUC_Prozer**:	same here, pay taxe and no complain


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**FUC_Prozer**:	what's needed in big amount btw ?


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**FUC_Prozer**:	maybe I can support


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**FreshFromage**:	i dont even use this planet for anything anymore but i'd be happy to donate to my home planet <3


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**Cherrybark**:	I'm always pleased to find a well run planet with a long term governor.  Being a member of GTU, I know nothing about their internal affairs but they seem to do an excellent job training governors and running planets.  Thanks for the work Churavlis.


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**Cherrybark**:	That would be OOG's internal affairs


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**Churaviis**:	Thanks


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**Rwinner16**:	Let me know what I can do to help out with POPRs


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**Cherrybark**:	Hmmm, looking at taxes on other Electronics planets, specifically ENG rates.


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**Cherrybark**:	Hortus - generally 20 ICA for all production including Elec/Eng


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**Cherrybark**:	Malahat - Generally 60 NCC and 100 NCC Elec/Eng


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**Cherrybark**:	XG-751b Generally 20 NCC and 100 NCC Elec/Eng


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**Cherrybark**:	Phobos - Generally 20-35 and 450 AIC Elec/Eng


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**Cherrybark**:	Jeetiyu - Generally 160 but 720 NCC Elec/Eng and 1,400 - 2640 for SCI.  What makes this planet require such higher tax rates?


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**Cherrybark**:	Oh brother.  Meant to post those comments in the Jeetiyu chat.  Go ahead and slam me for misleading comments in Phobos.  Sorry for confusion.


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**TuffyLess**:	haha you got your strawberries and chocolates mixed up.   ;)


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**Cherrybark**:	Indeed


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**marismols**:	Hello. I'm looking for people to join forces to produce more affordable electronic and ship components for Antares. Looks like everybody is busy making a big buck selling market makers. Would need some people who would be willing to dedicate one or few factories to make stuff that is greatly overpriced or missing altogether from CX. Each of us would be responsible for certain components to make sure they are avaialble on the market for everybody for a price that is sensible. Please DM me if you want to take part in such endeavour :)


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**Rwinner16**:	I can make use of my SL's to help out; unsure how helpful ya'll would consider that though


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**T-Tone**:	AW COME ON GUYS,


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**Snipp**:	is there a way to see the price per unit of materials in the charts?


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**marismols**:	CXPC C.AI1


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**marismols**:	the chart shows you price per unit


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**Snipp**:	i though it was just the average of all sales thanks!


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**Hernanduer**:	lol 900 sci


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**Plingo**:	17h for 4 units of iron. is that 17h of my real time?


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Yes


[31-Jan-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ZeroDark544**:	Your guess would be correct


[31-Jan-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Plingo**:	damn, thats a long time


[31-Jan-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	welcome to PU


[31-Jan-24 08:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	XD


[31-Jan-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	be patient by first couple week. This game will fit in your routine and not taking your time too much.


[31-Jan-24 08:14 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	If you are free try research market and build google sheet for your future expansion.


[31-Jan-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Plingo**:	a steep learning curve


[31-Jan-24 08:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Try, =IMPORTDATA("https://rest.fnar.net/csv/prices")


[31-Jan-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	on google sheet and create your own cost and margin structure.


[31-Jan-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Plingo**:	wait. so i have to make my own resources and then sell them to someone willing to buy them?


[31-Jan-24 08:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	on CX


[31-Jan-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	yes, it's econimic sim


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**ZeroDark544**:	Capitalism Simulator


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**Plingo**:	xD


[31-Jan-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	based


[31-Jan-24 08:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	or you can try cooperate supply with other


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**Plingo**:	yeah just gotta figure out how to make my ships fly somewhere xD


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**ZeroDark544**:	SFC (Transponder ID) for flight control... otherwise you can find the menu somewhere through your fleet


[31-Jan-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Plingo**:	ohh


[31-Jan-24 08:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Plingo**:	i see


[31-Jan-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	on left hand there are basic menu. Just go slow on each


[31-Jan-24 08:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	CXL for free market. we are next to Antares Station (AI1)


[31-Jan-24 08:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	Mostly you will fly between station (ANT) and base (ZV-307d) for selling and resupply.


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**Plingo**:	can i make a route


[31-Jan-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	relax and go slow "HELP" channel is free to ask.


[31-Jan-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	by your control yes. but you will need to load in and unload by yourself


[31-Jan-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Plingo**:	damn, wanted to make a route that would go on auto


[31-Jan-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	would be great but it will burn your money as well


[31-Jan-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	You can auto unload at destination if you are PRO license


[31-Jan-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	also play on mobile


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**ZeroDark544**:	I enjoy that Logistics just fills part of my cargo hold with shipments lol


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**ZeroDark544**:	when* I guess lol


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**StanDenisRocher**:	word


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**ItsCheez**:	What does "Input Missing" mean on a new order


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**TuffyLess**:	It means youre missing an ingredient needed for the recipe that youre trying to make.


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**SammyWest**:	hi all completely new here


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**SammyWest**:	hi can someone here help me get started?


[03-Feb-24 10:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Numsgil**:	Have you watched the videos yet?  They're listed under TRANSMISSIONS two windows to the right of this chat window


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**Numsgil**:	or, no, not this window, we're in Phobos global chat


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**Numsgil**:	the TRANSMISSIONS window under SCRN->START


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**SammyWest**:	yeah i built my first resource liquid collector


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**SammyWest**:	but i gotta learn how to buy materials to build more outposts


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**SammyWest**:	trying to create water but it says halted


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**SammyWest**:	my workers aren't working


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**SammyWest**:	wait


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**SammyWest**:	how do i get pioneers?


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**Numsgil**:	Did you watch this tutorial video specifically? https://youtu.be/1Wm12WFgs0I

{Embed}
Prosperous Universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wm12WFgs0I
Prosperous Universe Tutorial #4: Base Upkeep and Flight
Learn how to conquer the galaxy in Prosperous Universe with this detailed tutorial series. Study the basics to advanced gameplay mechanics to achieve galactic dominion. 

Website: https://prosperousuniverse.com
Handbook: https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com (including written tutorials)
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/rRbqqRz

In Pro...
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/nUReuFE9gRiD9yEOARWgIYFiCGt5jvdm-1xMs1RrfAI/https/i.ytimg.com/vi/1Wm12WFgs0I/maxresdefault.jpg


[04-Feb-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Numsgil**:	If you haven't and don't know what it's talking about, you should watch the previous videos.  They're all listed in the TRA (TRANSMISSIONS) buffer


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**Ismjam**:	start


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**Ismjam**:	Start


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**MagicalBurrito**:	lean


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**BiggMac**:	¡+++


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**BiggMac**:	¡¡+¡+¡+¡+¡+¡¡¡¡¡0''99999989800i


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**Numsgil**:	hard agree


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**Ismjam**:	Do any one use this


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**MagicalBurrito**:	wassup


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**MagicalBurrito**:	anyone alive


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**Marcellinio99**:	hi I am a new guy


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**Vasyklo**:	I'm ready, I'm ready


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**SmallDick**:	Promotion ?


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**Vasyklo**:	XD


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**MagicalBurrito**:	swag


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**Archiel**:	Hello new players! Be sure to check out the game's discord channels, and let us all know if you have questions.


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**MagicalBurrito**:	swag


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**TcEnterprize**:	holy crap just saw how many people joined with me


[12-Feb-24 01:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TcEnterprize**:	and hello and thank you i made the mad dash here when they nerfed IDC


[12-Feb-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	what?


[12-Feb-24 03:05 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TcEnterprize**:	1. scroll up theres been a mass migration 2. IDC and EDC got nerfed


[12-Feb-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	yee i saw that, but what does idc and edc stand for?


[12-Feb-24 03:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	the factions?


[12-Feb-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	products


[12-Feb-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	they where profitable products you could make lots of money of


[12-Feb-24 03:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	produced in SL and SE buildings


[12-Feb-24 03:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	You can still make decent money producing IDC


[12-Feb-24 03:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	ah okok


[12-Feb-24 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	eeh im just selling SI


[12-Feb-24 03:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	need to build up my money stack first


[12-Feb-24 03:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	DMed you


[12-Feb-24 03:36 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TcEnterprize**:	ya it got "nerfed" now instead of 800k id make 640k but if i set up hq in this faction id go back to 800k


[12-Feb-24 03:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TcEnterprize**:	im curious if thats why anyone else came here?


[12-Feb-24 03:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**marismols**:	probably. there are very few electronics planets that have enough scientists


[12-Feb-24 03:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MagicalBurrito**:	i started playing a week ago


[12-Feb-24 04:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TcEnterprize**:	congrats if you have any questions feel free to message me or ask in the help chats


[12-Feb-24 04:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TcEnterprize**:	its alot when you start but i like how this game almost gets easier the longer you play, alot of grind in the beginning but it pays off later


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**MagicalBurrito**:	ty broski!


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**LIkesTea**:	im logging my brother off because he left this on, how do i save this


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**Churaviis**:	It's not a game that you save, it's always on


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**LIkesTea**:	so i can close it?


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**Churaviis**:	Yes, you won't mess anything up


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**LIkesTea**:	ok thanks


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**Stephanator**:	That's a good brother, checking to make sure he doesnt mess it up first


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**TcEnterprize**:	i agree


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**Dobs**:	im so confused


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**Insula_Crisium**:	This game has a steep learning curve. I'd highly recommend starting with the tutorials if you haven't already.


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**FreshFromage**:	thank you phobos for being my first planet and giving a starting point for me to begin making my fortunes


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**FreshFromage**:	alas, i need my building permits for greater things, and i don't use phobos for anything anymore


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**FreshFromage**:	good luck to everyone, so long and thanks for all the fish


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**Zebty**:	Bisous bisous


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**Insula_Crisium**:	o/


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**TcEnterprize**:	o7


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**TcEnterprize**:	@Dobs why confused?


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**AdmiralKarollo**:	hello ?


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**Zebty**:	Hi


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**AdmiralKarollo**:	im bit lost


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**Zebty**:	Did you fulfill the 3 first contracts yet ?


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**AdmiralKarollo**:	no


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**Zebty**:	You can click on NEW BFR and type in HELP


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**MagicalBurrito**:	Yo, does anyone here produce carbon?


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**MagicalBurrito**:	Or is it even possible? Carbon is cutting into my profit a lot, would be nice if it somewhat profitable/possible


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**rzuraf**:	@MagicalBurrito check in PRUNplanner if it's better to buy carbon or to produce carbon


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**rzuraf**:	cause even if you place the INC you will have to buy stuff to make carbon


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**rzuraf**:	depending on your production setup it might be more profitable


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**rzuraf**:	(or not :D)


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**rzuraf**:	counting ONLY the price of ingredients for C (and assuming you want to make 4 carbon every 8 hrs) it's just a difference of  45 AIC


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**rzuraf**:	ofc you can use other recepie but then the time is doubled or tripled


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**rzuraf**:	and you have to get more consumables for additional production building and so on :)


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**rzuraf**:	you COULD produce all ingredients and have RIG, FRM, INC and make C with everything it needs but is it worth it? ;)


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**marismols**:	Price of carbon seems resonable at the moment. Can't make it much cheaper. Just try to look for products to make than have better profit margin.


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**Vasyklo**:	When I first started I kept looking into making C to help my profits. It never really made a big difference for my empire


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**Vasyklo**:	So I ate the price at the cx and moved on lol


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**MagicalBurrito**:	yee i started to calculate the amount of money needed, it will not pay itself that good. Maybe down the line when i get like 100k then i can start the production of C


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**MagicalBurrito**:	Can double my profits


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**MagicalBurrito**:	hmm


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**Vasyklo**:	Yea if you end up having multiple bases that consume C it may be worth it to make your own at that point


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**I_am_Tex**:	The best way to play this game is to NOT be self sufficient.  Specialize and rely on the market for things outside of your specialty.


[16-Feb-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**I_am_Tex**:	Makes the game more social, and also makes you more profitable by leveraging experts


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**Insula_Crisium**:	I've been importing thousands of units of carbon into the ANT CX the past few weeks. Hopefully that has helped bring prices down. Usually they're higher in ANT than some other regions. It's win-win, because I get some trading profits from it, while prices stay lower due to extra supply. Glad to hear it sounds like it's working.


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**MagicalBurrito**:	yooo thats awesome ty!


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**Insula_Crisium**:	np, just doing my job


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**Sateda**:	hi


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**EzeGamer135**:	this game is... quite complex (°ー°〃)


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**Owyhee**:	I Have just started my first base on Phobos extracting water and SIO. Producing MCG but not sure what to do with the water maybe start up Carbon farm?


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**Circle_of_Life**:	Generally you want a start planet with a planetary program bonus with what you are doing. A carbon farm may be wise on a different planet that is fertile perhaps a second base


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**Owyhee**:	That makes sense but I am trying to figure out best use of my water I am producing. Maybe I should just scrap the water plant but not sure if I get my resources back


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**Circle_of_Life**:	You will get the materials back if it's early. Nothing wrong with selling the extra water


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**healwhans**:	how can H2O be collected for farms?


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**Owyhee**:	Build a Rig but I am thinking Phobos isn't the best planet for farming


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**EzeGamer135**:	Can i refuel my fleet at Moria Station?


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**EzeGamer135**:	i'll have less than 3% fuel when i get there


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**FireFreak**:	yup


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**EzeGamer135**:	thanks :)


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**Stich**:	Hello guys


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**Owyhee**:	Hello Stich


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	Guten Abend


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	Suche nette Deutschsprachige Community die einen neuen, mittelmäßig aktiven Spieler gebrauchen könnte


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	Chat kabut oder nutzen wir den einfach nicht?^^


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**Saos**:	Hallo sklaven


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	Ja moin ^^


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**Churaviis**:	Hey, we don't allow math-heads here


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**xensored**:	Time to shut down also my Phobos base. It has been a nice time here with a lot of SD and SE stuff produced for ship parts. Now this permit will also move to the ARC region. Cya


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**TcEnterprize**:	2?


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**CptColeslaw**:	🍾


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**marc-sterz**:	Hello, are there any German speaking players here?


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**imaducky**:	hey friends, wsup


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**Roh**:	@marc-sterz you seem to speak English rather well. XD


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	Iam from Germany und i talk this Sprache^^ aber wenn du Hilfe brauchst. Bin selber ne'n blutiger Anfänger @marc-sterz


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**Hans_von_Iggen**:	Guten Morgen


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	moin


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**marc-sterz**:	moin


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**Ravick**:	Some shippings ads posted for ANT to Phobos


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**JIBBY**:	hi , how do i increase my BSE?


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**JIBBY**:	a new player here


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**Rwinner16**:	You have to buy them or make them. If you choose to make from, you'll need the HB1 and the PP1 buildings alongside the inputs to convert.


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**JIBBY**:	thank you


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**Tanterus**:	Morgen


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**apokali**:	hallo


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	moin


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**Tanterus**:	gibt es später noch bessere möglichkeit an wasser zu kommen?


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	mir ist tatsächlich nur bekannt das es per Förderanlage produziert wird. Demnach brauchst du einen Planeten der reich an Wasser ist um die Produktion zu steigern. ja und die Experten. Am besten aber du fragst im helpchat


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**SpectacledHusky**:	Ok, i just set up a base, what do i do now?


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**rzuraf**:	now the world is your oyster!


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**rzuraf**:	check out the check out the tutorials


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**TcEnterprize**:	after that pump the oceans dry


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Anyone got spare AL? Post on LM I miss calculate the supply.


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**FUC_Prozer**:	Hello gov any issues with the pop ? Looks like we're loosing quite a lot of people


[08-May-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Churv, I love ya, but come on. What, did you and Hern make a suicide pact for Nike and Phobos? If you aren’t interested I running the planet, you can just step aside.


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**RiseofFilth**:	(For the outside viewers, churv’s my boy. I’m just razzin him.)


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**Rwinner16**:	I need scientists. Badly.


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	apparently his suicide note was just found and your name came up Rise..


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**Scorpy.**:	rip


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**xXTeufelskerlXx**:	hm?


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**Churaviis**:	I'm working on the pop, we've got a program going and more upkeep on the way


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**RiseofFilth**:	@LapsedNortonSubscription Suicide from a gunshot to the back of the head? Plutonium Poisoning? Jumped from a 10th floor window?


[08-May-24 10:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	"Dasvidaniya, Governor"


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**Zvbura**:	hey all


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**Churaviis**:	Welcome to Phobos


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**rahzo**:	Hey everyone. I was wondering what everyone produces here? Just trying to get a grasp on the future


[12-May-24 09:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	The COGC here gives a bonus to electronics, but that's a small industry and only really useful at more advanced stages. As such, newer players will run all sorts of different industries. If it's your first planet, feel free to experiment with whatever you want, just be sure to pick something with a big enough market to be able to sell your product quickly


[12-May-24 10:08 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	I was figuring that was the case with the COGC. Thanks for explaining that. I went with Carbon Farmer just cuz I saw a decent demand


[12-May-24 10:10 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Carbon farmer is a good choice


[12-May-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Now i just gotta figure out the best recipe to use or combo


[12-May-24 10:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Farms take up a lot more space than incinerators, so the slower recipe is usually better as it optimizes for area, which will be the limiting factor fairly quickly


[12-May-24 10:19 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	I didnt think of Area but I did see the return on the HCP being the best overall


[12-May-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I think GRN is generally considered the best


[12-May-24 10:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Make sure you check out the public discord, generally there are folks there giving new players free cash to help start their base


[12-May-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Interesting, at the slowest rec on prunner, HCP is showing a better return


[12-May-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	w/ 2 FRM and 2 INC


[12-May-24 10:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	There are 2 recipes for GRN, you need to use the 4 h20 for 4 grn for fastest recipe


[12-May-24 10:58 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Yeah 400 more


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Come to prom


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	do not do agri here


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**RiseofFilth**:	yeah tbh, COLIQ is not a bad idea to get on a locked out planet like Promitor. Its the best start in the game, and you can only get on it by starting on it


[12-May-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	It has the best bonuses for farming


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**rahzo**:	ehh im fine with it. ill take some business risks lol


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**RiseofFilth**:	Phobos is called the newb trap for a reason... Its bad for literally every starting industry.


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**rahzo**:	Bad or extra slow? What makes it bad?


[13-May-24 10:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It's slower in that the COGC planetary bonus doesn't apply to an industry that newer players have access to, meaning you don't get that extra efficiency boost. That does make it better in that you can experiment with any industry, or even multiple industries, because you aren't locked into a single one, making it a great place to experiment, fail and then start somewhere else more optimized for your new plan once you've learned from your failures, as often happens at least once with newer players.


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**LancerCaster**:	Another planet successfully invaded!


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**RiseofFilth**:	who let this menace in


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**JPL7913**:	Maybe it’s slow, but I’m a noob who started out on Phobos a month ago or so


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**Tanterus**:	what is the limit to my kolonie on a planet?


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**Rwinner16**:	1000 area, using three permits


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**Tanterus**:	oh this sounds small for me as a beginner


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**WebLit**:	my ship is fully landed on the planet i need to be in but im unable to fulfill my contract


[15-May-24 05:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	its from the tutorial


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**WebLit**:	ah i see i have to complete it in order


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**Nathaniel_Lizzard**:	oh,,,,hello all .... first hour in game - my head is blown away


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**Rwinner16**:	Howdy!


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**Rwinner16**:	From an experienced player; I think you chose the wrong planet.. Phobos is subpar in almost every aspect. It will significantly slow your development; but will provide much deeper learning of the game.


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**Rwinner16**:	The game is.. a lot. But I'm at almost 1000 days and going strong if that tells you anything!


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**RiseofFilth**:	@nathaniel_Lizzard It is very easy to restart somewhere else. As someone else who started on phobos and regreted it for a month before older players rescued me, if you need any help or want to cooperating on projects making products with other people, feel free to reach out!


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**rzuraf**:	I started on Phobos and after about 100 days moved made 2nd base on Vulcan, where I (as a metalurgist) strive! I still use my phobos base mostly for oxygen extraction for smelting


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**rahzo**:	I SHALL PERSERVERE!!!!!!


[17-May-24 11:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	slow and steady wins the race


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**WebLit**:	whats wrong with phobos


[17-May-24 11:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	im making bank here


[17-May-24 11:25 AM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	It doesn't have the best resources, but its a great location to produce undersupplied products.


[17-May-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	It's just not efficient as a place where the CoGC and stuff gives extra boosts. Nothing wrong with it, just not a perfect planet


[17-May-24 11:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	I'd say most of us are here for the electronics xD


[17-May-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	ohhh i see


[17-May-24 11:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	I guess it depends on your playstyle


[17-May-24 11:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Nathaniel_Lizzard**:	i m not shure i will plaay this game, to much time for thinking, i have no time for it


[17-May-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	Depending on what you produce you might only have to log in once a week, but you probably wont make as much money.


[17-May-24 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	As a newer player... You can get away with hopping on like once a week. Then you slowly get more and more invested and eventually have 10 bases and need to log in at least daily xDD


[17-May-24 01:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	lol i suppose thats true


[17-May-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	the amount of ships you have and the storage space is also very limiting


[17-May-24 01:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	always have to keep them moving


[17-May-24 05:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Uncle_Leslie69**:	how about resource extraction?


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**AriesNation**:	Ah wish I would've looked into this... Didn't realize the CoGC was a fight here too or I would've picked somewhere else :facepalm:


[17-May-24 06:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	Might have to go 1k/1k on space sooner rather than later xD


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**Shiftless**:	As a newer player, what is CoGC?


[18-May-24 08:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	A program players vote on each week to give bonuses to various things such as electronics, resource extraction, metallurgy, etc


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**rahzo**:	SLOW and STEADY!!!!!!!


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**MerchSkele**:	eyuppers slow and steady wins the race!


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**rahzo**:	Adding a third INC! Leggo that slow and steady lifestyle!!


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**UnoLUL**:	hey hey hey whats going on


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[21-May-24 11:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	rahzo is on fire (correct spelling)


[21-May-24 12:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I'll call the fire brigade


[21-May-24 05:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Nah they will stop alll my fires!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[21-May-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Were you hoping to burn to death?


[21-May-24 06:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Im hoping you come to Prom


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**rahzo**:	lol im cooking here tho


[21-May-24 06:42 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	slowly but surely


[21-May-24 06:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	No loans yet, was sitting on over 100K, just bought material for 3rd HB1 and 3rd INC. And Lux consumables, and still sitting on money


[21-May-24 06:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	in another week ill have 4 INC


[21-May-24 06:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	and hopefully 5 another week after that, then ill sit on that for prob 2 weeks while ill plan out what to do next


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**rahzo**:	3rd INC up, more C.AI1 coming to the market soon


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**Insula_Crisium**:	🔥👨‍🚒


[22-May-24 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Shit efficiency shot up, now producing 12 C/day.


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**Domicius**:	Burn baby burn


[23-May-24 10:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Tanterus**:	fire in the hole


[23-May-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Might be able to expand quicker then I thought


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**rahzo**:	Burning Grains to get these Gains!!!!!


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**AstrosX**:	oh bella zi


[24-May-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	well it looks like C.AI1 is being forcefully lowered :(


[24-May-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	🥰Allocater


[24-May-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Allocator is the market maker of the south, similar to how Lowstrife is the market maker of the north.


[24-May-24 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Although I have my doubts as to how long he can hold down prices that low. I'm keeping my carbon at 800 until the market pans out. Long term, I think it will go back to the 600 range eventually though.


[24-May-24 01:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Well burning these Grains for Mid Gains I guess


[24-May-24 04:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	I don't see carbon getting cheaper anytime soon


[24-May-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	it's a complete runaway train in moria


[24-May-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	bid side hasn't been hit with size in days


[24-May-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	nearly 10k asks have been cleared out from 650 to 720 where it is now


[24-May-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	so if karenthian gets cleared out at 730? and interstellar gia can't keep the lid on antares because there isn't enough supply?


[24-May-24 04:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	ruh roh


[24-May-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	That sucks


[24-May-24 05:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Moving C is such a pain in the ass man, so stamping down a new C base seems really annoying


[24-May-24 05:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Also happy 1,000 days @lowstrife


[24-May-24 05:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Well ill be making C


[24-May-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Anyone know what's causing the carbon price spike anyways?


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**AriesNation**:	Holy crap! Happy 1,000 days!!!


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	😞


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**Ulti**:	how to build first pioneer homebase? is there a good guide? thanks


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**Procel**:	im so confused


[25-May-24 08:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Deckss**:	Dont give up!


[26-May-24 02:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	make sure you join the Developer/game discord, as well as the community discord (called UFO). People are very helpful and friendly!


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**SpeedrunnerG55**:	thnx


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**EdgingTheMarket**:	help


[27-May-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Do not start here


[27-May-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	COLIQ -> go to Promitor


[27-May-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	be a farmer


[27-May-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	come back here in 2 weeks


[27-May-24 02:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	but what do you need help with


[27-May-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	:D


[27-May-24 03:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	hes right, but damn, coming out of the gate swinging on the newbro


[27-May-24 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	i mean.. i started my first base here a little over a week ago and made way more than i would have as a farmer.


[27-May-24 03:05 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	Starting on promitor is definitely safer though. And you probably wont be able to get a base plot on there any other way.


[27-May-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	^^


[27-May-24 03:06 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	opportunity cost and all that


[27-May-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	I feel like smelters are better than farmers though just because of the amount of flexibility you have. It's so easy just to switch to a product in high demand and make bank


[27-May-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	when you are starting out at least


[27-May-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	i mean, if thats the vibe, start on Deimos


[27-May-24 03:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	:D


[27-May-24 03:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	COLIQ and make Copper on Deimos


[27-May-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	haha yeah this is still one of the worst starting planets


[27-May-24 03:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	does everyone here just make electronics?


[27-May-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Phobos is much better suited as a food planet


[27-May-24 03:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	I make GIN here


[27-May-24 03:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	oh i didn't expect that


[27-May-24 03:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	what makes Phobos good for food


[27-May-24 03:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Less about Phobos being good for food and more about Phobos being cheap to build on + really good proximity to CX + lots of players willing to do intra-system shipping


[27-May-24 03:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	ah i see thanks


[27-May-24 05:06 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	and yet, the LM is mostly dead ;_;


[27-May-24 06:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	Electronics FTW


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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**Alvar_The_Wolf**:	Hello all


[28-May-24 02:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**WebLit**:	hey welcome


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**FlameFoxx**:	I have no idea what I am doing


[28-May-24 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	COLIQ -> Go to Promitor


[28-May-24 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	come back here in 2 weeks


[28-May-24 09:20 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	be a farmer


[28-May-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FlameFoxx**:	Eh


[28-May-24 09:21 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	He


[28-May-24 09:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Each planet has a production buff associated with it, Phobos' buff is electronics


[28-May-24 09:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Electronics aren't a desirable product to make as a new player, generally


[28-May-24 10:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!


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**AriesNation**:	And pop just keeps getting worse and worse 😅


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**Churaviis**:	The pops are going up just not enough to keep up with all the new IDC/EDC farms, at least for higher tiers. I can only do so much.


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**AriesNation**:	Couple shipping contracts posted on Ant LM. Will need WCB but pay is around 15k for Ant -> Phobos within 2 days


[30-May-24 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	Hopefully I'll have that next ship built soon to leave down here!


[30-May-24 08:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	You are welcome to DM me on discord if you are looking for a fair priced WCB and someone to move it


[31-May-24 06:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	Nah if nobody takes it I'll just move it myself tomorrow, thanks though!


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!! Balance is now over 100K!!! Supplies procured for 2 weeks with 8 days still left! 4th INC goes up in 2 weeks!


[01-Jun-24 10:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	slow and steady!!


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**Fabian05vhm**:	Servus, kennt sich hier jemand aus ?


[02-Jun-24 04:27 AM] ApexChat#8127
**SFScorpio**:	@Fabian05vhm Yes, (ja). Was ist los?


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**AGiz**:	i started my first production, is there nothing more to do for 7 hours?


[02-Jun-24 07:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	This is a game you play while playing other games


[02-Jun-24 07:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**AGiz**:	very good, thanks


[02-Jun-24 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!


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**Vyra**:	Hey all, new carbon provider on the scene


[03-Jun-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Come to Prom


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**Pling0**:	damn this is like real time right?


[03-Jun-24 05:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	1 day 11h


[03-Jun-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Yessir


[03-Jun-24 05:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Come to Prom


[03-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	Prom a planet?


[03-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Promitor


[03-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	where is that?


[03-Jun-24 05:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	It has a bonus to a product family that is simple to execute on


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	and more importantly, is completely filled up permit-wise, which means if you don't start there you can never settle


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	well


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	it's in Insitor space


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	guess im never going there


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	no no


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	you are but a budding flower


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	a freshly laid egg


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	i got setup on Phobos


[03-Jun-24 05:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	mf you've been here for 22 minutes


[03-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	yes i built my base?


[03-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	dont know this game at all


[03-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	In the next few weeks, once the game starts to make more sense


[03-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	consider using the command 'COLIQ' to restart on Promitor


[03-Jun-24 05:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	okey, thanks


[03-Jun-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	If you stick with this game it will pay off yugely


[03-Jun-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Pling0**:	irl you mean?


[03-Jun-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	yes you will get fabulously rich IRL by starting on Promitor


[03-Jun-24 05:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
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**rahzo**:	slow and steady!!!!!!!!


[03-Jun-24 09:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	the real champs start at phobos, but dont settle, but instead fly to promitor. That way, they are Antarian, but on Promitor.


[03-Jun-24 10:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	im getting rich here...........slow and steadly


[04-Jun-24 02:02 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	I started here and I'm still here although moved my HQ elsewere :)


[04-Jun-24 02:19 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	anyone has 12 BBH for quick sale on LM?


[04-Jun-24 02:27 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	or nvm


[04-Jun-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	was thinking about something but after investigating in PrUn Planner I decided it doesn't make sense XD


[04-Jun-24 02:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	hard to find anything that would make more money here than generate costs :D


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[04-Jun-24 08:04 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	the only thing that can make more is... time and commitment


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[04-Jun-24 08:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I know some ways to make more with time and commitment for anyone interested.


[04-Jun-24 09:19 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	.........


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[04-Jun-24 12:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	what I had on mind was - what's the point of making let's say a 1k income if you need to spend like 5k to make it? (revenue 6k, income 1k)


[04-Jun-24 12:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	after 5 days you can make 2k income


[04-Jun-24 12:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	but at what cost? :sadfrog:


[04-Jun-24 01:06 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	presumably 10k


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**Insula_Crisium**:	20% ROI per day would be great. That's orders of magnitude higher than what I get from inter-CX trading


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**rahzo**:	4th INC UP! Slow and Steady!!!!


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**Ravick**:	congrats!


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**rahzo**:	ty


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	nice work


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	also come to prom


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**Churaviis**:	Will you be my Prom date


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	o-oh gosh


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!! 5th INC going tomorrow night!


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**Insula_Crisium**:	10 years from now, all of us will be long gone, but Rahzo will be building his 100,000th incinerator on Phobos and will win the game.


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**rahzo**:	You already know!!


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**RiseofFilth**:	if he only have 100k in 5 years, exponential grow is not doing its job


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**RiseofFilth**:	also, rip all farmable material in the game


[11-Jun-24 10:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	My impression of Rahzo is that his goal is to burn all matter in the universe.


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**rahzo**:	and make money doing it


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**Haruka_jp**:	よ


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**rahzo**:	T-Minus 12 HRs for 5th INC!!!


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**boogster**:	hello!!!


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**Scorpy.**:	Howdy!


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**MrUnicornMagic**:	how the hell do you play this lol


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**MrUnicornMagic**:	what is happening


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**Deckss**:	It gets easier don’t give up


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	COLIQ and come to Prom


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Prom is the source of all magic in this universe


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	you'll like it there


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**Scorpy.**:	Howdy!


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**Scorpy.**:	If anyone has 50 MCG on planet I would like to purchase it


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**Scorpy.**:	I have an offer on LM and if thats not enough message me! Thanks


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**Churaviis**:	Did you get your MCG? I have some if not


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**Scorpy.**:	Yes i did thank you though!


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!


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**rahzo**:	time to make some business decisons


[18-Jun-24 03:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	o.O Decisions decisions. What kind of business decisions?


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**Scorpy.**:	more incinerators ofc


[18-Jun-24 03:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	His decision is "do I build one incinerator now, or do I wait and build it a day later?"


[18-Jun-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**bitesize**:	im new is making iron a decent start?


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**rahzo**:	im at my farm/inc limit


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**rahzo**:	i can either break down my frms for more inc but then i have to buy GRN


[18-Jun-24 04:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	which i dont mind, my mind is just being to greedy


[18-Jun-24 04:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	no Rahzo, you were supposed to build 10,000 INC on Phobos, remember? XD


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**rahzo**:	your right silly me


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**rahzo**:	ill expand again next week


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**Scorpy.**:	Good


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Phobos is counting on you Rahzo. You're the only slow and steady person around here.


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**rahzo**:	i got u!


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**lampr**:	People farm and burn carbon on Phobos. Wild!


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**rzuraf**:	it's not that wild if you started here without knowing how the game works and decided to stay :D


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**rzuraf**:	are there better places to do it? ofc... is this a totally bad idea? no :)


[19-Jun-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lampr**:	I guess if its starting planet. Close to the cx and all. But after a while you probably going to want to take advantage of cogc bonus. And have your bases just those buildings


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**Rwinner16**:	Ignore most of us old-timers. It's easy for thos of us with millions to just tell you to demo and rebuild into Electronics CoGC costing millions.


[19-Jun-24 12:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	At some point, you may or may not want to build into Electronics. It is very lucrative, yes, but depending if you stay F2P, it may not be for you.


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**Rwinner16**:	For a long long time I used to use Phobos as a catch-all base. I didn't have enough actual electronics need to justify a full base, but the location proved doubly useful to supplement Deimos, Heph, Griff.


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**rahzo**:	Burning GRNS to make the GAINS!!


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	COLIQ and come to Prom @new players


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**rahzo**:	who got 500 of the cheapest GRN.AI1 for your boi slow and steady of here


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**rahzo**:	i dont feel like spending 150K


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**rahzo**:	im most likely getting pro today as well


[21-Jun-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	So some personal contracts with Rahzo maybe?


[21-Jun-24 08:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	message me, trying to plan this out for the weekend


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[21-Jun-24 08:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	messaged you. I buy a ton of wholesale goods from lots of people.


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**HushPup**:	Anybody know the Oxygen harvest rate on Phobos?


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**HushPup**:	I'm not sure how to tell without building a Collector


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**GeneralZ**:	someone got 4 (or 8) WIN? AD on LM


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**Gauss33**:	Hello i'm new, what are some steps i should take after the tutorial? my idea was build a prefab mk1 so i can keep expandingg my base


[22-Jun-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	You should consider COLIQing(restarting) and being a farmer. It'll likely allow you to expand more efficiently than if you made prefabs yourself


[22-Jun-24 11:08 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	aka COLIQ and go to Promitor


[22-Jun-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Doing construction on Phobos isn't desirable due to it's production buff being in a different industry


[22-Jun-24 11:09 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	and because you can always come back here later when you want, where as you cannot ever settle a planet like Promitor unless you start there


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**HushPup**:	Why's that?


[22-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Prom is in a tier of planets SO desirable that the available space on the planet is completely filled


[22-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	and it's filled to a degree that it will never open up again


[22-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	the only way to circumvent that is by starting the game on the planet


[22-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**HushPup**:	except new players are granted a slot?


[22-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	yessir


[22-Jun-24 11:12 AM] ApexChat#8127
**HushPup**:	gotcha


[22-Jun-24 11:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**HushPup**:	ok thanks


[22-Jun-24 11:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Gauss33**:	how does one COLIQ


[22-Jun-24 11:16 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	open a new buffer -> type COLIQ


[22-Jun-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Prom options are Victulalalr(farmer) and Carbon guy(make carbon, a staple resource)


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**Gauss33**:	ok, going


[22-Jun-24 11:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Gauss33**:	thanks


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	o/


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**Tuzlo**:	HELP, I'm new


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**Tuzlo**:	WTF do I do?


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**Rwinner16**:	open COLIQ and restart on the planet Promitor


[23-Jun-24 07:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Rwinner16**:	They really need to remove Phobos from the new player list


[23-Jun-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	I made it


[23-Jun-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	Sorta xD


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**Scorpy.**:	Out of the beginning


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[24-Jun-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**sean_computer_man**:	Huh. I'm a new player. I wonder if I should just COLIQ then.


[24-Jun-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**sean_computer_man**:	My predicament is kinda bad. I picked Manufacturer before reading the tutorial. Brilliant, I know. The balance sheet seems to suggest I'm on the way to staying afloat so I was just going to keep going.


[24-Jun-24 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ravick**:	Yea probably restart - If you want manufacturing choose Katoa, Agriculture / Food choose Promitor, Metallurgy choose Vallis, Chemistry choose Montem


[24-Jun-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ravick**:	If you want something different than those industries then maybe try that on a second base but try one of the above to start out with


[24-Jun-24 02:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ravick**:	I forgot Deimos - Metallurgy there too


[24-Jun-24 03:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Manufacturing, spawn at phobos and come to Hephaestus :D


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**sean_computer_man**:	Good advice, thank you. I'll pass that onto some buddies who are thinking about checking the game out.


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!!


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**rahzo**:	Stay true to Phobos and it shall fulfill your RPG money needs


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**erchaval**:	Can anyone point me to a help file explaining how to refuel a ship?


[26-Jun-24 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	If your ship is on the same planet/CX that your fuel is at, just drag'n'drop the fuel from one inventory window, into your ship's fuel hold.


[26-Jun-24 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**erchaval**:	Thanks.  Literally just figured it out.  Appreciate the help!


[26-Jun-24 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	np.


[26-Jun-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Fellow Phobians, hear me! Our beloved moon-planet deserves a leader with a TASTE for change. As your next governor, I pledge to COOK UP a new direction for the Phobos COGC.


[26-Jun-24 07:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	If you vote for me my platform is changing COGC to Food Industries


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**Nanacheesecakes**:	You have my vote! Been hoping for a food industries boost for a while


[26-Jun-24 08:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	I would like to remind everyone that our great and glorious governor Churaviis has been running Phobos with focus and stability (and some aplomb) for a good while now.


[26-Jun-24 08:24 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	A vote for him is a vote for prosperity.


[26-Jun-24 08:25 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	I am also standing for MP, to help shoulder the responsibility of running this here jewel of the universe.


[26-Jun-24 08:27 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Also, the COGC vote is unrelated to who is standing for governor, as it is made by each individual member on the COGC screen.


[26-Jun-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	im willing to do whatever it takes


[26-Jun-24 08:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	pay any cost


[26-Jun-24 08:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	to turn phobos into the food zone


[26-Jun-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Are you willing to change your base to Electronics?


[26-Jun-24 08:54 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	I feel this might be the best way.


[26-Jun-24 09:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	already did


[26-Jun-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	any local corporation looking for members?


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**Domicius**:	Welcome to the collective!


[26-Jun-24 12:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	We just got our POPR and are still attracting ENG and SCI at a healthy rate. We've still got some unfilled SCI jobs, but that's to be expected as there are always more people looking to build more IDC farms. We now have a decent ENG surplus. I can't guarantee that will continue, as a single EDC farm could gobble it up, but I'll continue adding as many ENG as I can through both high-tier upkeep and tier 3 education programs.


[26-Jun-24 12:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	no idea what that means, joined today :)


[26-Jun-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	looking for a new member?


[26-Jun-24 12:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	We are always looking for solid members but unfortunately we can't add free players to our corp. Take some time to figure out the game and determine if you like it enough to throw the devs a bone. If so, hit us up then and we'll see if you're OOG material.


[26-Jun-24 12:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	thanks for the offer, but I'm only playing free license


[26-Jun-24 12:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	That's totally fine, you play how you want, just be realistic with the limitations of it.


[26-Jun-24 12:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	I'll think about it... far away from any limitations for now


[26-Jun-24 12:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	can you add basic members?


[26-Jun-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Consider COLIQing and come to Promitor


[26-Jun-24 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	new player support systems are much more fleshed out there


[26-Jun-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	and the production buff is new player friendly


[26-Jun-24 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	plus, due to how the plot system works, you will never be able to have a base on Promitor unless you start there. You can always come back to Phobos


[26-Jun-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Technically we can add basic members but in reality we can't have very many since basic members can't initiate contracts, meaning they can't interact with other basic members. We also want members who are going to stick around for a while and those unwilling to sacrifice a bit generally fall off much quicker.


[26-Jun-24 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	understandable


[26-Jun-24 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	I've already emptied my credits into the CXL, I don't think I can QOLIQ after trading?


[26-Jun-24 03:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	I think you can COLIQ at any point, there's just a cooldown


[26-Jun-24 03:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GalaxyInc**:	oh you're right


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**Orbernator**:	Hi!


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**RiseofFilth**:	o7


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**BrightTheCrackhead**:	sigma


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**rahzo**:	7th INC up!!


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**rahzo**:	I will be getting pro probably today or tomorrow, I want to talk to people who produce food, looking for 2-3 contracts for cheap food :)


[28-Jun-24 07:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Ravick**:	Congrats! 🎉


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**rahzo**:	Thank you thank you


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	when you do let this chat know


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	you have persevered


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**rahzo**:	I am now pro, no need to manually manage 7 INC


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!!!!!!


[28-Jun-24 09:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Rahzo has pro?!?!? Slow and steady! 🎉


[28-Jun-24 10:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Yessir, gunna be on the hunt for cheap food contracts


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**JohnRazorblade**:	hi, were i can report bugs?


[29-Jun-24 02:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**FireFreak**:	https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/bugs-and-improvements/151/1229

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https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/bugs-and-improvements/151/1229
Bugs and Improvements
We’ve had a similar idea, called government notice board, but it was removed, to reduce the scope of the release. Maybe in a future release!
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg


[29-Jun-24 02:06 AM] ApexChat#8127
**JohnRazorblade**:	thx <3


[29-Jun-24 02:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**_Davv_**:	I just realised that buying commodities, even at local exchange, is very costly later when it comes to move them to your base...


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!


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**terpp**:	sup


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**_Davv_**:	How do new players get contracts from other people? Curious..


[01-Jul-24 03:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	talk to them. Use your words to get them to do stuff.


[01-Jul-24 03:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**_Davv_**:	So just like in reality, thank you.


[01-Jul-24 03:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	😄 For example, if you mention that you have plans to make a large enough quantity of something to sell, I would send you a contract for a wholesale purchase. But it may take a while to scale to that level if you have a new company.


[01-Jul-24 03:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**_Davv_**:	What's your definition of large enough? Over 100.000 worth of asset, or maybe more?


[01-Jul-24 03:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**_Davv_**:	Also another important question. Is there any ability in-game to save some custom data, ie. notepad or clipboard, or I need to use other software for it and synchronise it between devices on my own?


[01-Jul-24 04:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	depends on the commodity, but I'm looking for about 500k-1M of value of goods.  Generally I'm looking for more on high-volume commodities and towards the lower 500k end for thinly traded ones.


[01-Jul-24 04:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Interesting question.  There's a commonly used PrUn extension, PMMG, that has notepad functionality.  IDK if it can synchronize, but maybe you can hack it to work.


[01-Jul-24 04:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**_Davv_**:	I will note that and will contact you first as soon as I get into this level of liquidity. Any goods, or particular category?


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[01-Jul-24 04:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	I forgot I was in planetary chat, lol.  Too many chat buffers.


[01-Jul-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Right now I'm looking for NL suppliers, for example.


[01-Jul-24 04:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	And if you want, I can offer assistance helping you scale up faster.


[01-Jul-24 04:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Sent you a pm.


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**GodTsarHareKrishna**:	Liefde Dutch


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**Scorpium**:	topped up MCG for cogc... we were a few short ;)


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[02-Jul-24 04:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Managing 1 planet and checking in once every 10 days is really tough for some. Especially when he has his whole corp to lean on and support him. Must be difficult.


[02-Jul-24 04:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Maybe if Churv spent less time attempting to trash talk other governors in Elon's local channel and more time looking after the planet he is governor of, his COGCs might not go on strike.


[02-Jul-24 04:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	My apologies, I had surgery yesterday and missed the calendar reminder. it won't happen again.


[02-Jul-24 04:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	We understand if you need to take a break from PrUn. Real life comes first and I hope you feel better!


[02-Jul-24 04:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Maybe the devs were onto something with this Parliament thing ;)


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	thats fucked up


[02-Jul-24 05:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	get well soon dog


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**Scorpy.**:	126t shipment to ANT on LM if anyone has room


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**Churaviis**:	Citizens of Phobos, this is a momentous occasion as we are about to have full employment of scientists on Phobos, barring any new bases. I'll be continuing the education program and all the upkeep to build up as much ENG and SCI unemployment as I can. I'm sure the extra scientists on an electronics planet so close to a CX will attract a new EDC or IDC farm sooner or later.


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**terpp**:	dope


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**Domicius**:	Huzzah!


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**terpp**:	what is an oog?


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**AriesNation**:	I heard it's nice and gooey xD


[04-Jul-24 07:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Ooga Booga Capital Management - a 30 person corporation in the Antares region, Headquartered out of Nike, and founded more than 3 years ago.  Our principles include: have fun, contribute to the local economy, make lots of money, and overall... have fun.


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**Domicius**:	We also do bar mitzvahs and weddings.


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**Tarinaky**:	You'd think Halloween parties would be more obvious


[04-Jul-24 07:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	You know, people don't generally need virtual venture capitalists for those. I'll put it down as a potential growth area to look into though.


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**Tarinaky**:	Capital is a dead vampire :[


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**Domicius**:	Alive and kicking...


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**terpp**:	nice any join requirements?


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**Domicius**:	I don't normally handle recruitment (I'm not active enough on forums), but I believe that the prospective Booger (or Ooger? opinions vary) should be an active player with a few months under the belt, have a Basic/PRO license (so that they can use contracts), and of course have a high trustworthiness in-game (again contracts).


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**terpp**:	does anyone have 10 Vita Essence?


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**RiseofFilth**:	For all new players, here is the community discord! I recommend everyone be in it and ask questions and chat with your fellow PrUnners! https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**RiseofFilth**:	PS. Happy 4th for all the USA folks!


[04-Jul-24 12:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	Thank ya! Happy 4th to my fellow Americans !


[04-Jul-24 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	The election for Phobos has started. There is one governor and 4 member of parliament offices open for election. We currently have 10 players running for them. I am glad for the competition to keep me on my toes and it makes me want to be an even better governor even though I've accomplished so much already. I would be remiss in my duty, however, if I didn't warn everyone running of the complexities of Phobos governance. If it is not the most complex planet to govern in the galaxy then it is among the most complex. Not only is it high tier, but it has a large high-tier population and requires many niche upkeep materials that cannot be easily found on an CX in the quantities needed at a reasonable price. For this reason, I have had to dedicate significant portions of my operation to produce these upkeep materials myself, perhaps multiple permits.


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**Churaviis**:	For this reason I recommend that anyone that is new to the game, to governance, or who is not willing to dedicate multiple permits to providing upkeep for Phobos, should withdraw from the election and find a simpler planet on which gain experience. Voters should also take these considerations into account when making their decision of who to vote for.


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**Churaviis**:	In addition, I believe that whoever is elected governor should be the one to provide the upkeep materials. Not only will they be the one recieving all the glory and credit for the success of Phobos but they are the ones the voters chose. I'm certain that voters will recognize all that I have done for Phobos and re-elect me to continue the success we've had. If not, however, I will be repurposing my permits and passsing the responsibility for the upkeep of Phobos to whoever the voters choose after an appropriate transition period.


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**Churaviis**:	As such, I believe that all nominees should state whether they believe they are able and willing to provide the upkeep should they become Governor. I recommend against running for governor here if you already have other mid or high tier planets to manage. I myself will not be governor of any other high or mid tier planets so that I can focus on Phobos. I recommend that voters steer clear of anyone who does not confidently state that they are able and willing to focus on providing what Phobos needs.


[04-Jul-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	This is more important given that the part of the game that needs to be balanced the most is upkeep and infrastructure. When that happens, which will hopefully be soon, the governing of Phobos will be impacted more than most and having a governor that can focus on Phobos and figure out the changes smoothly will be even more important.


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**Churaviis**:	Thank you for your support Phobos


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**Hernanduer**:	Long live Churaviis. We run in support of his continued governance


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**Insula_Crisium**:	I don't planning on running for any parliament seats, but I did want to point out that upkeep is not inherently tied to governance.  Businesses like mine can provide those goods regularly to our clients, and it does not have to all be on the MPs' shoulders


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**terpp**:	boogar churaviis for governor!


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**Churaviis**:	Thank you


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	ថ្ងៃនេះជាសករាជថ្មីសម្រាប់សង្គមដ៏អស្ចារ្យរបស់យើង។ យើងបានអបអរសាទរអ្នកវិទ្យាសាស្ត្រ វិស្វករ និងអ្នកបច្ចេកទេសរបស់យើងជាយូរមកហើយ ប៉ុន្តែវាដល់ពេលដែលត្រូវផ្លាស់ប្តូរការផ្តោតអារម្មណ៍របស់យើង។ អនាគតរបស់យើងស្ថិតនៅជាមួយអ្នកត្រួសត្រាយ និងអ្នកតាំងលំនៅ - ព្រលឹងក្លាហានដែលផ្សងព្រេងទៅក្នុងមនុស្សដែលមិនស្គាល់ និងកសាងសហគមន៍របស់យើងតាំងពីមូលដ្ឋាន។


[04-Jul-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	ដើម្បីគាំទ្រចក្ខុវិស័យនេះ យើងកំពុងណែនាំគោលនយោបាយសេដ្ឋកិច្ចថាមវន្ត។ រៀងរាល់ប្រាំពីរថ្ងៃម្តង ការិយាល័យកណ្តាលសម្រាប់កំណន និងពាណិជ្ជកម្ម (COGC) របស់យើងនឹងបង្វិលផ្នែកផលិតកម្មរបស់ខ្លួនរវាងការទាញយកធនធាន កសិកម្ម និងឧស្សាហកម្មម្ហូបអាហារ។ វិធីសាស្រ្តវដ្តនេះនឹងធានាឱ្យមានការអភិវឌ្ឍន៍ប្រកបដោយតុល្យភាព និងបង្កើតឱកាសសម្រាប់ទាំងអស់គ្នា។


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**RiseofFilth**:	That seems to be going well @lapsenortonsubscription


[04-Jul-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	សូមអរគុណ - វាដល់ពេលហើយសម្រាប់ជម្រើសទីបី!


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**RiseofFilth**:	For those confused, the above text is in Cambodian


[04-Jul-24 02:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	It doesn't let me copy from the chat for some reason, would someone care to translate?


[04-Jul-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I also asked for that, but to quote @LapsedNortonSubscription  https://imgur.com/OXvCmI8

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**RiseofFilth**:	https://i.imgur.com/OXvCmI8.png

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**Hernanduer**:	lol bold


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**RiseofFilth**:	So thats one way to run for office I suppose


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[04-Jul-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	ខ្ញុំមិនមានន័យថា "ប្រសិនបើ"


[04-Jul-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	don't google translate that, I saw the english


[04-Jul-24 02:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	:)


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	ខ្ញុំមានន័យថាពេលណា


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**RiseofFilth**:	I wasnt planning on it lol


[04-Jul-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	not you, him. He wrote it in english first then, presumably, used google translate to make it cambodian


[04-Jul-24 02:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	That too


[04-Jul-24 02:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Well, I'm glad voters will have a variety of platforms to choose from depending on the direction they want to take Phobos in


[04-Jul-24 02:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Just how big is the Cambodian community on Phobos?


[04-Jul-24 02:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	តិចតួចបំផុត។ 😟


[04-Jul-24 02:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	As you can see I am running for parliament. My message and objective is simple. My goal isnt to be governor, but to make the voice of beginners known. This is a planet dominated by experienced players producing electronics. If you vote for me, I promise to give a voice to those not as fortunate as us.


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hello Phobos! For the new players who don't know me, to the older players who see my name on a lot of planets, I am Rise. I have governed directly on Hephaestus for the past 25 election cycles, and have managed 15+ other planets via proxy governors for various periods of time since I started 2 years ago. I saw that in Antares, no corporation or group of people had stepped up in a meaningful way to competently manage any planet outside of the main ones that made the most money for them, like Phobos. And the few planets outside these large few being by someone often were done so very poorly. I’ve been an advocate for good governors and competent governance since I started holding office, and an opponent to any who take the office for granted and do not consistently manage the population well.


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**RiseofFilth**:	This is a big planet. It takes effort to run. Apparently too much at times, given the missed unfulfilled COGCs that occasionally pop up and whenever POPI input is forgotten and high end population starts to nose dive until I, among others, have to DM him and remind him to actually maintain the planet. Both the governor, and his entire corp that he leans on, somehow, have repeatedly forgotten about one of their largest planets. And this is not the only one, as their HQ on Nike often suffers as well. See the below photos and look up the POPRs yourself if you disagree and notice how steeply the high end populations essential to folk’s production is tanking, WHILE THERE ARE OPEN JOBS. Tell me I’m wrong and that this quality management is acceptable.


[04-Jul-24 03:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I govern planets because it’s what I enjoy doing. My industry and 30 bases are configured for it. I do it well on Hephaestus, Eos, and Astraeus, just in this system alone, and I’ve done it well at ~14 or so other worlds in Antares space. I would like your vote because I think a better job can be done here at Phobos than what is currently happening. And more than that, I think other folks like LazySiege, Scorpy., and LapsedNorton would make great Parliamentarians, not beholden to the same corporation as the current governor that have allowed all too many mistakes to flourish here. Regardless of who wins what seats, I will offer my advice freely. But to make change, change must happen, and to do that, I and the others I’ve listed need votes. Please vote at “ADM ZV-307D”!


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**RiseofFilth**:	https://i.imgur.com/jLfwjYF.png

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**RiseofFilth**:	https://i.imgur.com/68p0HeG.png

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[04-Jul-24 03:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I say all the above with no malice towards anyone. Merely a hope towards a better planet and election.


[04-Jul-24 03:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Saying this will likely incite OOG and their members to attack me and accuse me of various things. I, for example, have by no means been perfect and fulfilled every COGC on time across my 17 planets for 2 years straight. Likely they will rally every member in their corp and pressure them to vote for their candidates and how they are righteous and I villainous. They are welcome to. At the end of the day, I want there to be accountability in governing, and I want capable people in the office and Parliament. I think mindlessly voting only based on the ticker of your corporation is a scourge on our elections and will only enable lazy governing and encourage mistakes.


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**RiseofFilth**:	Even if nothing changes on this planet and I get ousted on every planet I’ve managed for months and years, it will be done on the principle of holding people accountable for mistakes. When I lose elections, I hope it is because I have erred, and not because the other person running has a OOG by their name.


[04-Jul-24 03:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Once again, Please vote at “ADM ZV-307D”!


[04-Jul-24 04:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I've said my piece, let the votes fall where they may. Happy 4th yall!


[04-Jul-24 04:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I don't claim to be perfect, but I have managed this, one of the most complex planets, for almost two years, sacrificing multiple permits to do so and slowing down my progress in other goals I could have persued in game. In that amount of time occasional mistakes are inevitable for anyone. In that time, no one else has seemed to want to manage Phobos. Had I not stepped up, who knows whether anyone else woud have or what kind of job they would have done. If two years of sacrifice counts for nothing to the voters then so be it.


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**RiseofFilth**:	https://i.imgur.com/WPYL80U.png

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**Domicius**:	Nobody has to incite me to vote for Churaviis. Or anyone in OOG. I just think that this kind of politics is out of place. I regularly contribute to the upkeep here, and I don't do it thinking "oh no, the governor has failed", no more than I do so on KI-840C, or Harmonia, or Eos, or anywhere where we all throw some stuff into the mix.


[05-Jul-24 05:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	I understand that for some people, running 15 planets is how they find fun in the game.  And more power to you. However that ultimately represents a concentration of power in literally one pair of hands.


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**Domicius**:	I think that an open and collaborative approach to government - which is what the devs intended, is the opportunity we have before us.


[05-Jul-24 05:15 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Domicius**:	Of course, the politics of our time is very much around "othering" and 2-party systems, so I get why so much of our rhetoric is aggressive.


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**RiseofFilth**:	@domicus Considering the way OOG "collects" our taxes from various planets, including Phobos, is to allow 30+ accounts, with a significant number of them inactive, to collect an equal share via weekly payout(at least, up until this politics change), I would hope they all contribute, not just you. Somehow though, I've never seen more than 2-3 people do so. Every OOG member takes our taxes and does not contribute back to the planets they are taken from. And then OOG Governors, like Churav here, has the audacity to complain about upkeep costs being significant. What you do is not charity, and it never has been. Its grift.


[05-Jul-24 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Yall literally have a channel in your discord where you bragged weekly about the free cash that would get distributed to everyone from our taxes. Tell me I'm wrong, and that every person, even the inactives, paid it all back *somehow*.


[05-Jul-24 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I find the governing enjoyable, after I found this region woefully underserved and numerous planets left governorless. But all things end, and I am not so blind as to think that having other people, who are competent, motivated, and trustworthy in gov positions is a bad thing. I'm only here because there was a vaccum of competency. That is what I am asking accountability for. COGCs on strike once a month and forgotten POPI inputs for months/weeks at a time causing population declines are not acceptable when there are people who actually want to do a good job.


[05-Jul-24 02:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	See local channels like Norwick or Deimos. While I disagree with OOG's previous collection methods, a new patch and politics system is the law of the land, and I support good governors like Turlorn and Paris_In_Springtime. Id happily support them here, but I dont see them running. Give me a good candidate who is attentive and capable, and I'll support them rather than running. Churavriis is not it, and has not been it for some time.


[05-Jul-24 05:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**roganartu**:	churv if you resent running phobos so much, why you still running now? There's 11 people running, more interest than there's ever been, so I don't think you can any longer claim that the reason you keep running is that nobody else wants to step up. Additionally, even if one is legitimately concerned about rise running for govt on so many planets, this one has 5 seats and there are no other members of his alleged posse running here so I think you're safe to finally rest, my friend


[05-Jul-24 05:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	I think if you asked any person running right now, every one would tell you they don't want to supply all the POPI for this planet


[05-Jul-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	except him


[05-Jul-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Id actually love to work with Parliament folks to supply different aspects of the POPI and pay them via the motion system. I'm fuckin geeking out and excited as hell to use that method to help grow the base of POPI input producers and people familiar with planet management.


[05-Jul-24 05:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	On smaller planets, its silly and clickfest. Here? I think it will be super cool


[05-Jul-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**roganartu**:	the randos who clicked it for fun because "why not", sure I can see that, but are you really trying to claim that none of the OOG members, nearly half the candidates, are interested in actually looking after the planet if elected? That seems bold


[05-Jul-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	Ah well there's a difference between desire for influence and desire for control. Unfortunately the new system doesn't make that clear, so it's required to be stated by intentions


[05-Jul-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	Just to be clear


[05-Jul-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	for my supporters


[05-Jul-24 05:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	I am going to turn the COGC into Food and Agri


[05-Jul-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**roganartu**:	good luck lmao


[05-Jul-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	it won't be easy


[05-Jul-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**roganartu**:	even if elected, you can't control that


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**Hernanduer**:	No one said not looking after it, not at all, just that one person in the corporation has already created and runs the supply lines for supplying the POPI


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**Hernanduer**:	So, using corporations as the team structure they are, he supplies it


[05-Jul-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hernanduer**:	we support him, idk. It's an imperfect system


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**Hernanduer**:	better than the last one though


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	you think so


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**australis**:	GOOD MORNING VIETNAM


[05-Jul-24 06:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Seacilia**:	Oh my is that australis o.0


[05-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**australis**:	no, i dont think so


[05-Jul-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Seacilia**:	Nehehe, Hope you're well.


[05-Jul-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**australis**:	doing better, hope all is well on your front


[05-Jul-24 06:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Seacilia**:	Yeah things have been well.


[05-Jul-24 06:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**australis**:	goodgood


[05-Jul-24 07:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	OOG kept taxes lower than they would have been. Everytime a new governor took over from an Ooger, taxes went up. How do you call that 'grift' when were literally subsidizing citizens? What do voters care about how it works behind the scenes as long as it works?


[05-Jul-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Who is going to be making the POW and MHP and HOG and SOI and FOD and TUB and CD and DIS and HD and all their inputs and everything else that Phobos needs to maintain the growth in high tier workers that we've had?


[05-Jul-24 07:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Because people, including you, complain about the cost of maintaining the planet, but then intentionally give that money away to everyone, including inactive accounts. Raising the taxes would do nothing because it would just spread it out among all those irrelevant accounts that contribute nothing.


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**Churaviis**:	I'm not complaining, I'm making sure everyone running knows what they're getting into, otherwise Phobos is going to have a rough time while they figure it out


[05-Jul-24 07:38 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	First off, I make or have sources for every one of those products. I do not fear providing items from my production. But I hope as time goes on, there will be those, including parliamentarians, who step up and offer to sell to the planet such materials. But in the short term? I can absolutely do it, easily.


[05-Jul-24 07:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	We interrupt your important parliamentary debate with breaking news: I have a question.  Is anyone here able to make LFE?  I could probably supply the CTF if it helps.


[05-Jul-24 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Yes I can


[05-Jul-24 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Dm me or lets chat in discord :)


[05-Jul-24 07:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	well, that was quick.  Thanks!


[05-Jul-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Youre also talking to the biggest ship builder in the game :D. LFE is a big part of that


[05-Jul-24 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	fair enough!


[05-Jul-24 07:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Your plan is to hope someone else sacrifices permits while your stockpiles dwindle lower and lower? Plans based on nothing but hope rarely pan out well.


[05-Jul-24 07:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Taxes are incredibly minor slice of the pie that is profitability in production. It is completely miniscule. There is nothing wrong with charging a planet a fair tax, and to hold low taxes in exchange for vote just reeks of ego-centrism as your motivation, rather than maintaning the planet.


[05-Jul-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Who sacrificing permits? No one is damanding they give up their production for free


[05-Jul-24 07:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	It will be a profitable purchase, like anything else would be. Maybe less so than outrageous market prices, but no one is selling at a loss.


[05-Jul-24 07:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I'm focusing on Phobos, meaning I can sacrifice a permit or two to produce what the market does not. You don't seem to be willing to sacrifice anything for Phobos if you're not willing to build out production for it. Even if you were willing, having multiple high tier planets to manage means you can't sacrifice a few permits for each to produce what they need.


[05-Jul-24 07:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	I have a solid, proven plan that focuses on Phobos and no where else.


[05-Jul-24 07:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I believe we can manage via my own normal production, which otherwise goes to market, or goes to other things. As much as I can sell to MMs, I can sell to the planet, at a fair mark up, paid for by the same tax rates as every other world in Antares. Having insular and unprofitable businesses only successful by centrally controled businesses is why the USSR collapsed


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**RiseofFilth**:	And as I believe is the point of this new system, to bring new people into governing, is to encourage us to spread to load among more than a single person, and I am eager to do that with whoever becomes Parliamentarian, or anyone else who wants to make money doing something other than selling MMs to the CX.


[05-Jul-24 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	How many planets will you be managing? How many high tier planets will you be managing?


[05-Jul-24 07:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Quite a few. And yet none of them have had a COGC go on strike this week. How about you?


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**Churaviis**:	How many surgeries have you had this week?


[05-Jul-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	How many active corp mates do you have, and how many days did you fill up the COGC before the surgery, or ask anyone else to help you out?


[05-Jul-24 07:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I genuinely hope you are doing well, surgery sucks! but its not like the window to fill a COGC is 1 day.


[05-Jul-24 07:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	and you are not in a 1 man corp. You have an entire corp/ Hell, you have 2, previous 3 other OOG members running for office here


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**RiseofFilth**:	where were they?


[05-Jul-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	You've never missed the COGC on any of the planets you've managed? Has Heph never gone on strike?


[05-Jul-24 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Oh it certainly has, without a doubt.


[05-Jul-24 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Not this year tho. Not in a damn long time. And im running 17 of them. 17. And I havent missed one in 6months, easily


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**Churaviis**:	Let's not fall prey to recency bias


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**RiseofFilth**:	You yourself called this planet and running it a burden


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**RiseofFilth**:	I dont see it that way. Maybe thats why I am good at what I do.


[05-Jul-24 08:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Churaviis**:	Refusing to acknowledge the difficulty of a thing only makes it harder to give it the work it deserves.


[05-Jul-24 08:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	It is difficult and takes work, but that is mitigated by having a good mindset, a good system, and a good team. Those things make it easier.


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**RiseofFilth**:	I hope all Parliamentarians, here and other planets, strive to be that team and check and support the whole.


[05-Jul-24 08:05 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	My goal here is not to be a 1 man army that does and controls it all. I hope to create a system and attitude that will survive me when I step down or get voted out.


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**MoldySasuage**:	aye i have a question


[06-Jul-24 12:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MoldySasuage**:	i purchased some stuff from the commodity tab from antares. do i have to pick it up and bring it back to my base or?


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**LazySiege**:	yes you need to send a ship


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**LazySiege**:	always remember fly slow to safe full


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**roganartu**:	if you don’t have a warehouse at ANT you’ll also need to accept the cont that was sent (with no notification) when you bought it too


[06-Jul-24 01:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**roganartu**:	recommending renting warehouse space there so you don’t have to do that dance in future


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	COLIQ and come to Promitor @modly


[06-Jul-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	it's a new player utopia, you'll love it there


[06-Jul-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	and you'll also be able to come back here later


[06-Jul-24 11:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Honestly, not wrong. Electronics is not a friendly COGC for new players


[06-Jul-24 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Promitor is a top tier, if not THE top tier start


[06-Jul-24 11:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	I also make a lot of LFE, I keep some on the ANT CX


[06-Jul-24 11:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	IDK I think it's fine - I've grown plenty here.


[06-Jul-24 12:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	I started here, its possible. But if ur new theres for sure better places to go


[06-Jul-24 12:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Fun fact, I started here as well. But the legends known as Bobemor, DiggingLake, and Rannepear dragged me up and supported me to move to other planets.


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**RiseofFilth**:	I woulda drowned here if it hadn't been for them.


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**RiseofFilth**:	For any new players looking to get advice and help, check out Antares Development Initiative discord https://discord.gg/3nXeTa9fPy


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**RiseofFilth**:	They are a good group of folks


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**MoldySasuage**:	yo how do i pick up cargo from the commodity market


[06-Jul-24 10:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Hey Moldy, if you bought it from the CX, you need to make sure you have a warehouse there


[06-Jul-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	You can do that by opening a new buffer or "window", and typing in "STNS ANT"


[06-Jul-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	There, you can click "Antares Station Warehouse" and rent some space


[06-Jul-24 10:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Each rent/click gets you 1 unit of 500 space


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**RiseofFilth**:	I recommend clicking a few times :)


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**RiseofFilth**:	After that, you can check your contracts, the bar on the left side lists "CONT"


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**RiseofFilth**:	If you ever buy something on the CX and you dont have enough space in your CX inventory, it will create a contract to hold onto the items


[06-Jul-24 10:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	You just have to open the contract and deliver the item


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**Tarinaky**:	It really confuses me that the game considers Silicone a metal, but magnesium and Sodium aren't.


[07-Jul-24 07:08 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	*Silicon


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**Tarinaky**:	What is going on with pe.ai1 - I'm grateful for the price going up so much, but who's buying it all?


[07-Jul-24 12:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	PE.AI1 ?


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**FireFreak**:	@PiBoy314


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**rahzo**:	Phobos!!!!!!!!


[07-Jul-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!


[07-Jul-24 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	you are an abomination


[07-Jul-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Hey, i started on phobos as a manufacturer... making PE


[07-Jul-24 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	dont judge, i was young


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	😔


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**Tarinaky**:	I'm still on phobos as a manufacturer making PE, lol.


[07-Jul-24 05:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	I'm actually pretty close to getting my first Settler industry...


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**Tarinaky**:	I was thinking of getting a Weaving Plant, to turn PG.AI1->NL.AI1; but it looks like the price is going in the wrong direction.


[07-Jul-24 05:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	yeah, it's starting to come back down. it's had a lot of public attention


[07-Jul-24 05:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	I guess a 3D Printer is the more obvious choice now.


[07-Jul-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	🖨️


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**Tarinaky**:	3d printer go brr


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**AriesNation**:	Me likey da 3d printers >.>


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**RiseofFilth**:	Might I suggest Astraeus or Hephaestus as a more optimal location for manufacturing?


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**Tarinaky**:	I don't want to coliq and restart.


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**Domicius**:	Oh man, my 3D printer is arriving today


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**rahzo**:	I am offering 5 batches of 10C/500aic. Posted on LM


[08-Jul-24 07:05 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady


[08-Jul-24 07:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Looking for some wholesale supplies of things for me to burn. Got some ideas but need more Mats to burn! Long term and serious inquiries. And I will make my own corp in the future so no thanks to offers to join for cheaper supplies. Just some good ole Slow and Steady negotiations


[08-Jul-24 07:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Suppliers*


[08-Jul-24 08:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	those 5 batches of C vanished not so slow and steady :(


[08-Jul-24 08:36 AM] ApexChat#8127
**ROGUE_HX**:	pretty sure he have Cabon fetish.


[08-Jul-24 08:38 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	in about 7 hrs: new offer on CX 50C for 700AIC


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**ROGUE_HX**:	Private contract for me pleaes sir, his Carbon have very smooth skin.


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**rahzo**:	I was cleaned out, tryin to find sources of Mats to burn, not many are people are to crazy like me. I might end up spending 200-450K on Production Mats if I cant find loca/cheap supply


[08-Jul-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	Some Cheap Batches of H2O


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**rahzo**:	on LM


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**FatherAnolev**:	I tried to buy some H20 from LM earlier today, but it didn't let me because I'm still "U" not "P" ... is that because I'm a new / trial account? How does one "move up" to the "P" tier?


[08-Jul-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	Yeah, you have to pay for at least 1 month to get access to the LM afaik


[08-Jul-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tarinaky**:	Or rather, you have to have paid - it's an immediate change for having a Pro or Basic license.


[08-Jul-24 01:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**FatherAnolev**:	Thanks


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**terpp**:	is there a way to increase order que?


[08-Jul-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	As you upgrade your HQ you will gain queue slots


[08-Jul-24 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**AriesNation**:	https://pct.fnar.net/hq/

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**AriesNation**:	To note on that.. I think there is a HQ level cap for new/free players. Can't remember what that is off the top of my head though


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**Scorpium**:	I think it is 5


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**KZ_Kawasaki**:	But you can get Pro, upgrade, then it will retain your level after you go to Basic.


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**rahzo**:	Thought of the day, Havent bought fuel once yet!??!?!


[09-Jul-24 12:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Insula_Crisium**:	Hello everyone. Our new corp is hiring a corporate accountant and we are looking for applicants. Job description is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-yksLWxzBMPlAc_E__vXLifvhWazR_Dp4gClKMeI3nk/edit?usp=sharing. If interested or if you have any questions, please dm me directly and I'd be happy to discuss more!

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Corporate Accountant job posting
Hello everyone! Our growing new corporation is looking to hire a corporate accountant.  This role is perfect for a newer player who is looking for more to do, and wants to be more invested in the game. While this is a starting role, there will be opportunities for promotion for those who excel in...
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**RiseofFilth**:	This is getting too close to real life


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**rahzo**:	1500 HCP anyone got that stock? and wont break my bank


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**Insula_Crisium**:	😁


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**Tarinaky**:	I'm pretty happy with myself that I've managed to hit 30% growth in material sales every period since I started :D


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**rahzo**:	I suck at finances but I think im doing well


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**rahzo**:	How can i not when its Slow and Steady!! But taking a pause from slow and steady, I am ramping up production and need to find more GRN producers! Help me out fam!


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**Deckss**:	Quite a sum you pulled out there


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**RiseofFilth**:	and I'm going to pull out another 4mil or so once Ive finished upgrading the planets infrastructure. You only need to scroll up a very small amount to see what that money is going to, to see the state of the POPI materials (i took screenshots) prior to this elected government taking office.


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**Scorpy.**:	seemed reasonable to me


[13-Jul-24 04:46 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	I stated the costs, I stated my reasoning, and I feel investing in upgrading planetary infrastructure is the best path to driving down the high monthly costs that the planet was being run at previously.


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**RiseofFilth**:	These upgrades will enable our government to save 700k monthly by allowing us to use cheaper inputs to maintain the same fulfillment and population levels.


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**RiseofFilth**:	But these upgrades arent free, and I'm not going to wring my hands and do nothing or undersupply things and allow people who have a base here to have scientist issues that persist multiple months, like has been going on. I will act decisively to improve things, along with the consent and support of the members of Parliament, who have all supported my actions.


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**Hernanduer**:	ah that's a bit misleading, I think scientists have been growing about as fast as possible for the last couple of months. I don't think the improvements will make them grow any faster, but feel free to prove me wrong


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**Hernanduer**:	that said, I don't mind the improvements if they can result in tax decreases down the road


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**Archiel**:	The upgrades and contributions have been very transparent and match the withdrawls. And the prices for contributed goods have been quite generously low


[13-Jul-24 08:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Let me rephrase, the new upgrades are intended to reduce the monthly upkeep costs. Avoiding staying into heresay, I'll simply say, cheaper a simpler to produce inputs for our POPI will ensure that there is never a disruption in inputs, which could cause a shortage and lack of fulfillment, and a gap in population growth in a time when there are open jobs.


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**RiseofFilth**:	straying*


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**Hernanduer**:	sounds good


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**Dzentak**:	anyone havesome dw they can sell me? LM ad posted


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**Archiel**:	Got it


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**RiseofFilth**:	https://imgur.com/a/IQ11Lwn For those interested in accountability and tracking spending, at this link, you can see the input material requirements for 3x ART, 2x PAR, and 2x INF upgrades. With some additional POPI inputs to max things out and have the planet supplied for the next month or so, this comes to an approximate 7mil of upgrades and upkeep material (at least at my internal prices, I'm sure if you did the math yourself and used CX prices, you will see it is well below it).

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**Archiel**:	I have audited the contribution amounts and the prices in latest contribution and they meet my highest standards. I have voted in favor of the payout motion


[16-Jul-24 12:10 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	They also meet my lowest standards


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**Archiel**:	just somethin' to munch on there.


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**rzuraf**:	I am happy that I disabled motion notification as I suppose that will not stop anytime soon :)


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**LELE93**:	Does anyone have any goods that need to go from Phobos to Antares Station? Departure in 45 minutes and still have plenty of space!


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**LELE93**:	1t = 2ACI


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**LELE93**:	250t free


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	seven MILLION?!


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	thats more than I make in a yera


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**Scorpy.**:	All the population needs art


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	then put on a marvel movie or something


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**AriesNation**:	POPI upkeep is expensive xD Especially on a starter planet


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**rahzo**:	4 RESOURCE EXTRACTION EXPERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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**rahzo**:	RSC Local C Sale!!


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**rahzo**:	Check the LM


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**PossiblePanda**:	heyo


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**PossiblePanda**:	I started my extractor and smelter and now i dont know what to do


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**PossiblePanda**:	what should I do


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**JeanPaulMarat**:	you wait for resources, you pack them, you ship them to station, you sell them, you buy consumables, you go back, you repeat


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**RiseofFilth**:	Yep @PossiblePanda This is a slower game, so you extract resources, bring them to market, try and get the most you can for then, and then buy items to feed your workers


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**RiseofFilth**:	make sure you join the community discord https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP


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**Tarinaky**:	Oof, financially this has been a bad week for me.


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**Deckss**:	Join a Corp :)


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**rahzo**:	I dont know how im doing! But i have to be doing good!!!


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**Tarinaky**:	No Corp. Only Solo play.


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**rahzo**:	Solo Corp? Lol


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**rzuraf**:	I suppose many ppl do Solo Corp - for governing planets for example


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**rzuraf**:	at least I suppose that was a thing before


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**rahzo**:	Time to bring it back lol


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**rahzo**:	RSC Local C Sale Open!!


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**NouB**:	good evening


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**NouB**:	is it normal for every new bfr command to be an illegal command?


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**NouB**:	nvm was using wrong commands


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**NouB**:	the buffers are a bit confusing to me, too many illegal command errors, what am i missing?


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**NouB**:	i want a buffer for construction and 1 for workforce


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**NouB**:	found it nvm


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**Zibeb**:	One thing that might be helpful, any buffer or tile you look at should have the Buffer command next to the title. So for instance, if I look at this buffer, I see COMG pl-zv-307d, which is private group (COMG) and the planet identifier for Phobos.


[24-Jul-24 12:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zibeb**:	If you click CMDS on the left-hand sidebar, it gives you the list of commands. I usually need to look up the identifier though, so most buffers I just access through other buffers or make it a tile


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**nanoengineer**:	How come the local market gets so little use?


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**rzuraf**:	cause ppl are self sufficient and don't trade with others much ;p


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**NouB**:	thanks for the advice zibeb, i noticed i was missing my code next to the command


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**NouB**:	can anyone use local market? i send my ship to the commodity exchange


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**Malaka427**:	guys ive just finished the tutorial what should i do now, the new contracts that showed up?


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**NouB**:	one option is that, the other figure out a plan, for example maybe expand your production of your chosen role,  or figure out a sales plan, dont forget to include the fuel into the balance, im new too so take my ideas as ideas hehe


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**NouB**:	while also doing the contracts


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**Finest_One**:	I would reccomend using PrunPlanner.org and making an expansion plan. keep it simple and focus on trying to use all the area of your 2 first colonies.


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	@malaka427 You should COLIQ and move to Promitor. There you should grow VEG and eventually HER


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	And eventually come back to Phobos


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**Archiel**:	Hello everyone! Our election on Phobos starts shortly and I wanted to express my support and enthusiasm for the current government of Phobos. We have worked together to maintain a stable and balanced population on this important Electronics planet in ANT space. I hope for a seat on the parliament with Rise continuing as our governor. Thank you all!


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**Zsed**:	anyone out there


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**KZ_Kawasaki**:	It's a big universe...


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!


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**RiseofFilth**:	Similarly, I can say this current government has been very good and collaborative. I hope the improvements are to everyone's approval.


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**Scorpy.**:	Hello everyone! I am running for a seat in parliament. You should expect me to work with current leadership with whatever their plans may be. Very appreciative for the work Rise has done for Phobos and hope to see bright days ahead.


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**NouB**:	lower the tax prices booo!!! i joke haha


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**NouB**:	happy production and trading all


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**RiseofFilth**:	Actually, and I dont want to put the cart in front of the horse, we had some conversations this past week about doing just that, as I believe the savings from the upgrades has made our income very healthy. Per the parliament dicsussions, I think we want to save some money for future upgrades, maybe some money for jump gates? But once we have a nice warchest, that is definitely something we want to look at.


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	Raise the taxes,  I say.  Planetary governance shouldn't be volunteer work.  Give the governor a fair salary.


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**Dzentak**:	On a planet like Phobos the taxes should be higher.  Use low taxes for pioneers and settlers but tax people producing EDC etc


[02-Aug-24 03:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Much discussion and a serious look will go into such a decision, I can assure ya of that.


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**Scorpy.**:	Lots of shipping Ads on LM decent prices


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**RatgorWesbar**:	trying to rebuild my base to accomondate the electronic boon. but what electronics are people making ?? is there enough movement for SCN production??


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**Dzentak**:	if you aren't concerned about producing something the world needs, there are electronic market makers, EDC and IDC


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**RatgorWesbar**:	I can make whatever, just need to know thati amable to sell it again, because when i look at CXL i dont see much movement


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**RatgorWesbar**:	EDC and IDC where do i found those?


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**TienDow**:	Silly question, but I've been playing this for a couple days, am looking at my Financial Overview buffer (FIN) ..... and I still can't tell how much money I have on-hand in imediately-spendable currency ^.^  How do I tell how much money I have??


[06-Aug-24 11:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Lanshara**:	click NEW BFR at bottom of screen and use the FINLA command


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**Lanshara**:	list all your cash


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**TienDow**:	Excellent =)  Thanks x)


[06-Aug-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpium**:	There is also SDBR (sidebar) on one of the menus on the left of screen. clicking this opens up a sidebar on the right of your screen showing you your current finances


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**TienDow**:	Oh. Well. Sure enough =)    ... As well as current contracts =)


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**TienDow**:	And now I've learned that the help channel is a thing (command: COMP HELP). I'll try that next time ;)


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**CrudestChimera**:	how long does it take to always be busy with this?


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**FireFreak**:	thatll never happen


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**FireFreak**:	even at close to 40 bases I need like 30 minutes a day


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**Roh**:	mmm, lots of things at YA-471 ---- I wonder what's happening there?


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**TienDow**:	I'm on my 3rd day of playing this and most of my time is spent teasing out new aspects of my spreadsheet. =)  It's ALOT to learn and tease out ^.^


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**Roh**:	@TienDow I can give you a few pointers. Capital Sinks (base costs, involving everything base related). ROIs from production. Stockpile sinks, for not having to ship something ever day. And I/O metrics, for shipping.


[07-Aug-24 12:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Figure out the rest. :)


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**TienDow**:	Thanks =)    hmmm....I shall work on deciphering what you said ;)


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**CrudestChimera**:	I'm just here to sell fuel and come up with funny ship names


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**CrudestChimera**:	for example, Mop n' Bukkit for the ship I sell fuel with


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**TienDow**:	Nice =)


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**CrudestChimera**:	My other ship is called Shopping Cart


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**TienDow**:	Nice. The first ship i launched I called Early Bird. ...So I called my 2nd one Worm. It's dumb...and I still haven't changed it ;)


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**CrudestChimera**:	You have to find entertainment one way or another lol


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**Roh**:	What you find through entertainment, gives, truly, only your sustainment. Instead, find your own rhyme, and let others be in their #flex-time.


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**CrudestChimera**:	I dont understand that but ok :)


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**Roh**:	Make da memes, in other words.


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**CrudestChimera**:	gotcha


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**CrudestChimera**:	Can I join someones Corp?


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**RiseofFilth**:	You can, though the corp feature doesnt have much effect or utility. The only one of note is if their built HQ is on a planet you are on. Every member of an ingame corp gets a 10% production speed bonus


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**CrudestChimera**:	oh


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**Scorpy.**:	If u for some reason make it to Jotu lmk Chimera


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**RatgorWesbar**:	LSClub have room formore members we dont have a HQ yet


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!!


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**CrudestChimera**:	I just realized you can build infastructure, time to fund a hospital like the true mega Corp I am


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**Dzentak**:	infrastructure has upkeep requirements also


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**CrudestChimera**:	oh... maybe later then lol


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**CrudestChimera**:	Also I just voted :)


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Democracy loves you


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**Insula_Crisium**:	🗳️❤️‍🔥


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**RiseofFilth**:	plz no, hospital bad!


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**RiseofFilth**:	SST and INF good!


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**SethosV2**:	Can you reset the UI, to its default layout, if you've closed some windows etc. as a new player


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**FireFreak**:	nope


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**SethosV2**:	Crap. Oh well, thanks


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**rasyidpriyatama**:	anyone has magnesite? really need


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**RiseofFilth**:	MAG is a restricted strategic material sir, water filters are dangerous! It could help people avoid phobos government's mind control drugs. Cant let the normies have those!


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**RiseofFilth**:	I have some at ANT tho, if that helps


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**AriesNation**:	MAG = magnetite @RiseofFilth. MGS = magnesite


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**AriesNation**:	I have some MAG if that's what's actually needed but all my MG is up in Ben


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**Tarinaky**:	Don't confuse MAG and MGS. That's what I did a few weeks ago *facepalm*


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**AriesNation**:	When I first started using MAG I did it literally every other ship I sent to Phobos lol


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**RiseofFilth**:	@ariesnation well thats less fun


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**RiseofFilth**:	BUT ALSO


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**RiseofFilth**:	MGS breaks down to MG, a KNOWN INGREDIENT IN EXPLOSIVES! This guy is a loony trying to make a bomb


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**AriesNation**:	>.> Shhhhh


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**Scorpy.**:	Selling below market rate Carbon check LM


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**Scorpy.**:	Sold.


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**CrudestChimera**:	Guys Vote me for president, I definitely know what I'm doing


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Wow! @Scorpy, save 75 AIC!


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**rahzo**:	Does anyone have 3 BBH on Planet


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**lampr**:	sent you a CONTRACT


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**rahzo**:	Thanks


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**RiseofFilth**:	Just a heads up folks, you are going to see an upgrade to the ART and UNI popi sometime this upcoming week to ensure a upswing in SCI pop, as its a tad low (as you will see reflected in tonights popi)


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**RiseofFilth**:	Wanted it this week, but production queues and ships going slower than is ideal :(


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**Scorpy.**:	112 carbon at 700/u on LM


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**Quazarum**:	Newb question, how do I buy missing resourses?


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**Quazarum**:	there shoild be a local market at my planet, but how do I acces it?


[14-Aug-24 03:55 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Deckss**:	LM (local market) is for PRO members sadly but if you fly your ship over to the CX or commodity exchange and youll be able to buy the stuff you need provided you can pay for it


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**Deckss**:	the closest one here should be ANT CX


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	You don't really use the LM to buy input resources, it's more used to cover when you forget things


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	ANT is our auction house


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	also you should COLIQ and come to Prom


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**Roh**:	LM ads, can be posted by PRO players, anywhere.... BASIC players can accept LM ads, anywhere, and BASIC players can only post shipping ads, at the CX LMs.


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**Roh**:	TRIAL players... Well they can forget about the LMs. Period.


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Hey, the LM SHOULD be used to buy input resources.  There's just no one who takes the time to stock it.


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**Insula_Crisium**:	I'm hoping to change that eventually.


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**ROGUE_HX**:	anyone have spare TRU? I post buying on LM at 500 each.


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**AD14**:	hey guys


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**rahzo**:	slow and steady


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**Dzentak**:	true story


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**RiseofFilth**:	o7


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**Scorpy.**:	Carbon 700/u LM


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**NouB**:	how do i sell to the local market?


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**rzuraf**:	you need PRO license


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**rzuraf**:	or at least basic


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**NouB**:	I see, thanks for the answer! ill keep carrying my rations to antares station


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hey all, The other members of Parliament and myself have been talking about tax money on planet and how we are collecting a lot more than we need. We've had an idea, and we would like the public's input on it. Please check this survey out, answer honestly, please dont say mean things about my mom :(


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**RiseofFilth**:	https://forms.gle/M7QgA1vYeVEReZtr5

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https://forms.gle/M7QgA1vYeVEReZtr5
Phobos Fiscal Questionaire
Hello Phobos! 

I hope this survey finds you well. To the point! 

Phobos currently generates 12mil a month in income, and uses about 2mil a month in POPI upkeep. (When I originally did the math, I thought it was per week, because there is no way it would be that cheap... nope. 2mil a month). This is because this planet has a massive ENG/SCI pop...
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WwAICO2yJcY85fd7b971ffN0aQrwmVDKiJXwrhIKx-g/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/0yXWtIVew__E2KD-NYG1di7VUrp6c9JCZof5F4V2LTCQkwrCThJBpDSeJ9d1nQx-cLtLRKG1XFM%3Dw1200-h630-p


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**RiseofFilth**:	PS. Let me know if you have any further suggestions for the final multiple choice question, and I'll add more options :)


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**Roh**:	aww.... i notice a fresh breeze coming our way.


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**Roh**:	LOL........


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**Roh**:	"Submit another response"


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**Roh**:	Time to skew these statistics, into what I want them to look like! >:O


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**RiseofFilth**:	whoops, disabled that


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**Scorpy.**:	112 Carbon 700/u


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**Scorpy.**:	LM


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**Insula_Crisium**:	Anyone out there want to build an NL base for me?  Looking to buy a whole base's supply of NL regularly.


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**RiseofFilth**:	https://forms.gle/9YrpmUvkdEWUcmkJ6 Make sure you check out this survey and vote! Phobos has a large surplus of tax funds, and this planet's parliament wants to know you opinion on what to do with it!

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Phobos Fiscal Questionaire
Hello Phobos! 

I hope this survey finds you well. To the point! 

Phobos currently generates 12mil a month in income, and uses about 2mil a month in POPI upkeep. (When I originally did the math, I thought it was per week, because there is no way it would be that cheap... nope. 2mil a month). This is because this planet has a massive ENG/SCI pop...
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/WwAICO2yJcY85fd7b971ffN0aQrwmVDKiJXwrhIKx-g/https/lh6.googleusercontent.com/0yXWtIVew__E2KD-NYG1di7VUrp6c9JCZof5F4V2LTCQkwrCThJBpDSeJ9d1nQx-cLtLRKG1XFM%3Dw1200-h630-p


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**Dzentak**:	posted an ad for 1d shipping for a very light load. need it at antares station asap


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**Scorpium**:	got it. WIll be at Phobos in 1h30m then will be back to ANt station a couple hours after that


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**ChadChaddington**:	where would I find posed ads?


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**Dzentak**:	local market


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**Scorpy.**:	More carbon on LM same price as always


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**Roh**:	@RiseofFilth... Survey says?!?


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**Banana_S_Hope**:	Salut mon beau Aranir !


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**Banana_S_Hope**:	Coucou Desdalle le dévoreur de monde


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**Dizzplaced**:	anyone using lots of plastics round here PSS PSM DCL etc?


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**Roh**:	@Dizplaced why?


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**Insula_Crisium**:	^ Nice, sounds like we only have knowledgeable traders left here?  I guess I'm in good company then ^_^


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**Banana_S_Hope**:	Hey where we can take debt ?


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**FUC_Prozer**:	just ask someone with loads of money


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**FUC_Prozer**:	je peux t'aider si tu veux ;)


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**Banana_S_Hope**:	Haha si tu veux ^^ Je cherche à doper un peu ma production


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**Dizzplaced**:	@Roh considering setting up a base, calculated margins are good but liquidity is thin. Im going to upgrade to premium soon but as im free i cant see the local markets.


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**Roh**:	All of the formed plastic sheets are used for shipbuilding/electronic fabrication. There's a market for them, but most of it is hidden with private projects, so CX data is unreliable in that regard, or at least I'd think it would be the case.


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**Scorpy.**:	168 C 700/u on LM


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Good deal Scorpy, I would buy but am new and don't have cash like that.


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	https://com.prosperousuniverse.com/t/release-notes-maintenance-2024-03/6565

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Release Notes - Maintenance 2024.03
Release date The APEX update release will be released on September 5th, 2024.  General Notes If your APEX console is stuck in a loading state after the update, please make sure to refresh it once after the update to ensure you got the latest version.  Changes Market Maker Changes   BUYING:  CCD 55000 → 61000  RED 45000 → 50000  SRD 53000 → 59000...
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/x0Lcv9Tc0WstLZAut1pc9Cply1Z-ZpDJ_X3qJLQ4S_k/https/com.prosperousuniverse.com/uploads/default/original/1X/9637dadda95e302d05ebee320ec8473189637a64.jpg


[26-Aug-24 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	NON-IDC/EDC MMs are getting buffed. IDC/EDC MMs are getting squashed. SF/BBH/BDE MMs are getting uptiered.


[26-Aug-24 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	oof?!?


[26-Aug-24 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	"The APEX update release will be released on September 5th, 2024."


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**Roh**:	Let the CX buyours commence.


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**Ogrebeef-Backkicker**:	I could've sworn there was plenty of sub-16 SF for sale on all the CXs when I posted the maintenance release message.


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**Roh**:	When SF production margins are low, while you can get better processes --- people just won't produce the SF at all.


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**Roh**:	There's also the logistical stuff, and people basically voted Fuel Refining COGCS out from the CX systems.


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**MustacheTwirlingCapitalist**:	Hey guys, what kind of buildings do y'all like to construct early game? Torn between setting up Settlers and the textile buildings or just leaning more into Pioneers Am manufacturer if that helps


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**Finest_One**:	You want to try and always match the COGC bonus so this is an electronics planet. that being said as a new player Producing RAT is always in demand.


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**MustacheTwirlingCapitalist**:	Interesting, thanks. I'll look more into both


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**TRUEnterprises**:	What actually sells in electronics? I can't sit on inventory as I am new and need the cash right away to get more supplies.


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**Scorpy.**:	Decent shipping contracts at ANT LM


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**RiseofFilth**:	@mustache Take plastc prod to heph as the manufacturing bonus is ideal for that type of production


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**RiseofFilth**:	as to why this planet is electronics... some foolish fools long ago


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**NouB**:	whats the cogcs bonus?


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**FireFreak**:	https://handbook.apex.prosperousuniverse.com/wiki/efficiency-factors/index.html#cogc-programs

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Efficiency factors :: Prosperous Universe Handbook
Prosperous Universe Wiki


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**RiseofFilth**:	@Noub It is a 25% flat bonus to a single industry. This planet's industry is electronics


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**NouB**:	oh, I farm and cook heh


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**NouB**:	is there an ingame tool to extract prices? or only all by hand


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**Dzentak**:	you can use fio to pull pricing to spreadsheets


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**Scorpy.**:	More carbon cheap on LM


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**Dzentak**:	cmon popr, need moar engineers :D


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**LELE93**:	free capacity towards ANT in 10 minutes


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**LELE93**:	173T/241m


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**samuelson374**:	hi all, um i'm new to trading and commodities, so if my company goes corrupt, don't worry about me i'm just learning


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**rzuraf**:	just COLIQ and start over, probably on Promitor or somwhere else


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Noting you could do could be as corrupt as our planetary government


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Naught but crooks and ne'er-do-wells


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**TRUEnterprises**:	I heard a bunch of people start over once they play for a few days.


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**Dzentak**:	Phobos government needs a nice embezzlement scandal lol


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**RiseofFilth**:	@dzentak plz no, we are good gov, just trying to do well by the planet and its population


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**Dzentak**:	lol


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**m0rfey**:	07 Phobos neighbors.


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**Nanacheesecakes**:	o7


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**TRUEnterprises**:	heyo m0rfey


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!


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**TRUEnterprises**:	whatcha making on planet rahzo?


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**rahzo**:	I use to do C but took it off planet


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**Laaxus**:	I started a base here because I like money


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**MerchSkele**:	Howdy there!


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**RiseofFilth**:	howdy all


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!


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[18-Sep-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	hey question is there a reason why we aren't running any happiness gov programs?


[18-Sep-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	the 20% one is really good and would substantially lower popi costs


[18-Sep-24 12:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	and would solve the high end pop shortages


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**rzuraf**:	cause there is nothing to be happy about :(


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**Roh**:	I don't know the specs around here for FEST III weekly costs, but they're expensive none-the-less. The actual benefits that it would provide, initially, would be just an 11% increase in ENG education, and a 5% increase in SCI education. Since the POPI upkeeps on Phobos are balanced to maintain higher tier pops at just over 50% happiness, there only so much room for immediate expansion, should those worker types buffer up to a certain range of unemployment....


[18-Sep-24 06:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	In other words, everyone with current ENG/SCI opening will get filled in 3 weeks or so, with, or without FEST III running for the whole duration.


[18-Sep-24 06:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It shouldn't be too much of an issue either, since the weekly workforce redistributions basically have every running at near full capacity.  A 3.5% underemployment for those running ENGs, and a 4.6% underemployment for those running SCIs. :/


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[18-Sep-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	montem is another enormous t1 planet with a ton of pioneers, and they run festivities 3 every single week. basically all planets do. It's my understanding that it's by far the best ROI thing to do since it's a free 20% to all population groups...


[18-Sep-24 09:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	it's not about increasing education rate, it's about decreasing upkeep costs of popi buildings


[18-Sep-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	with current popi inputs, if a 20% program were run (est cost of $97,000), projected average happy is 87% for pioneers, 53% for settlers, 65% for techs, 75% for eningeers, 72% for scientists


[18-Sep-24 09:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	the $ per unit happiness is way cheaper with the program


[18-Sep-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	yeah you can cut the taxes in half if you run this program


[18-Sep-24 09:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	this is why i am asking


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**lowstrife**:	https://i.imgur.com/PSinGjU.png

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[18-Sep-24 10:04 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	https://i.imgur.com/wOQotMq.png

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[18-Sep-24 10:05 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	oh and education would be even faster even at half taxrate


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**lowstrife**:	and you could probably go even leaner on the popi upkeep


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**FireMonkeh**:	o7


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**lowstrife**:	oh p.s the ballpark amount of money being wasted is something around 2-3 million per month


[18-Sep-24 11:04 AM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	excuse me sorry, 1.5 million per month


[18-Sep-24 12:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Yes, the suggestion is very fair. I can't tell you what's going on here, since I'm not a parliamentarian on this planet. But, it would be a good option for the peeps here to scroll over.


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**Roh**:	There's also likely reasons, as to why such options were passed over. :/


[18-Sep-24 12:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	well there isn't, the math is pretty clear on this


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**Roh**:	Let the PMs here, respond to ye. I'm just a pleb on Phobos.


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**Archiel**:	Yeah the cost per unit happiness is very low for festvals


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**RiseofFilth**:	Like on many planets, the main detraction of FES's as a upkeep method is that it locks you into using them and being unable to take advantage of any other program. This makes a government overall less flexible when it comes to addressing population shortages or rapid growth.


[20-Sep-24 05:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Additionally... There are 3 types of happiness. "True" Happiness, which is the weekly hidden value of happiness as a result of fulfillment and unemployment. There is the weighted happiness that you see on POPR each week, that is calculated on a weighted scale from the previous 4 weeks "


[20-Sep-24 05:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	"true happiness". The most recent week is most relevant and heavily weighted, 4 weeks back is least weighted. And then FES Happiness. This happiness is always an flat addition to the weighted happiness that you see each week on popr.


[20-Sep-24 05:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	The problem with FESs as an upkeep method is that the planet's weighted happiness is only upkept by fulfillment and unemployment. When you reduce fulfillment levels because you are using FES, the weighted happiness gets stuck at a much lower place, say 20% of where it should be to maintain a population. If we ever wanted to run any other program that is not FES, the weighted happiness would be without that 20% and would take almost a month to undo the suppressed/lowered state that it is in. And all the while, that low happiness for week after week would cause a massive population crash across all pop types.


[20-Sep-24 05:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Further, when you use FES as an upkeep method, your ability to influence high-end pop happiness is greatly reduced, because of the way fulfillment capping works. It is much more difficult to influence and target specific pop types, like SCI and ENG, for growth, without massively bloating PIO/SET numbers


[20-Sep-24 05:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	And the more those numbers become bloated, the more the fulfillment we try to put in becomes diluted across tons of unemployed workers, which means we have to put in even more fulfillment.


[20-Sep-24 05:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Ultimately, I think you are likely correct in that in pure monitary terms, we could likely sustain the population as we are now. But the flexibility and available tools to encourage growth when needed would be stripped away from us. And at the end of the day, this planet generates a lot of money, and my personal opinion is such that I would rather spend a little more in exchange for having greather population management flexibility.


[20-Sep-24 05:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	That being said, happy to listen to opinions if people are passionate one way or the other.


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**lowstrife**:	I don't see any planetary emergency that could happen, for a planet this size, which would need any other program other than festivals. Education, maybe, but most of the time it's pretty comparable to festival growth on mature worlds.


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**lowstrife**:	other than a govenor going afk, which could happen IRL happens to the best of us


[20-Sep-24 11:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	these are valid points about overall population levels raising overall infrastructure costs


[20-Sep-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	after spending a lot more time on this and really digging into the model


[20-Sep-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	I think I actually have to agree for phobos it just skews with so many scientists


[20-Sep-24 11:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	that ya


[20-Sep-24 11:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	this being said - I don't have the quadratic or whatever math to be able to fully run these numbers out


[20-Sep-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	but maybe maintaining the safety needs of excess pioneers is cheaper than the safety and culture and comfort of scientists


[20-Sep-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	so maybe running pioneer rich might end up being cheaper in the long run


[20-Sep-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	though this is certainly a different path\purpose than initially proposed, I do admit this


[20-Sep-24 11:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	I also don't know how to do THAT math


[20-Sep-24 11:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**lowstrife**:	(this being said running education programs would help a ton with the current pop shortage and im sure some folks would appreciate it)


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**lowstrife**:	& full disclosure it doesn't affect me so I don't have a horse in that race, just looking out


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**Roh**:	Planetary maths strictly involves harmonic oscillating differentials.... https://youtu.be/kLWXLbciobw?t=12

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[21-Sep-24 05:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Each type of management tool, be they POPI (SSTs, INFs....), or Programs (Festivities,...), applies a given magnitude to that base fluctuation.


[21-Sep-24 05:50 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	That fluctuation is calculated in-game, statisitcally, so you have a span of 5 weeks, wherein true happiness gets averaged out based on fulfilment levels.


[21-Sep-24 05:53 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	However the overall behavior of POPRs, largely fits that wave motion, if certain requisites are met. I've mentioned before that there's an "education centipede" in other places. Most of the POPR loss is usually seen from PIO--> SET+ education, and subsequent migration, since most planets are in states of equilibrium, wherein an employed base of workers, per tier, is kept, while the rest simply go away.


[21-Sep-24 05:57 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Those requisites are modulated with long-term POPI levels (of the planet's choosing). Add more POPI upkeep, and you will have a higher bar of fluctuation; have less, and you will have problems. What you end up with is a cycle, wherein pop tiers migrate in, and then migrate out. Education happens automatically, so you have a second set of POPR fluctuations... PIOs or whatever get uptiered, fill the unemployment reserves per POPI models, and then start to migrate out, in magnitude, until the true happiness levels go under said buffer levels, when they start to mass again.


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**rzuraf**:	any TL:DR?


[21-Sep-24 04:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	@rzuaf it's math-speak.. The exact details are up to your given planetary PM's to figure out.


[21-Sep-24 04:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	PM == members of parliament.


[21-Sep-24 04:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	@lowstrife There should be a vote going through any hour now for exactly that education program, as the current shortage from new buildings is basically has a month worth of natural growth slated. That doesnt account for additional new construction. So with the consent of other MPs, we are going to run educations to catch us up.


[21-Sep-24 06:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**MerchSkele**:	huh i see that we have a new planetary governer interesting.


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**RiseofFilth**:	3 months late to the party :D


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**Gnatsby**:	is there somewhere that shows the price of a single item or is it the price listed the amount for one?


[22-Sep-24 02:14 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TuffyLess**:	welcome, type 'CX AI1' without the ' in a new buffer (bottom left button).


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**TuffyLess**:	Each price displayed is per item


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**JuniorDedois**:	tem BR ai ?


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**david515**:	is there a possibility to buy BSE


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Yes, at antares station - the trading hub. Bring what you have to sell and buy what you need.  @david515


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**TRUEnterprises**:	CXL on the left side - commodity exchange


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hey Phobos, just wanted to check in with you all as we have another election cycle on our hands. I hope everyone, from the new players (Welcome to the game, dont forget to check out the main PRUN community discord https://discord.gg/vwcUJx8HHP as well as the ADI discord that offers grants and advice to new players https://discord.gg/N6bXSuvbuw ) to the older players like myself, is doing well this fall.  I just wanted to offer 2 thoughts to voters this cycle. First off, my complete satisfaction and approval of the current goverment. Arch, Aries, Scorpy, and Rogue have all been good PMs and I am satisfied with the direction, the grants, the upkeep, and the population growth for Phobos. I’d be happy to see them all be returned to Parliament for future cycles.


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**RiseofFilth**:	My second thought is, while I support folks campaigning for a seat in Parliament if they are passionate and want to contribute and help ensure Phobos is run smoothly, I would like to warn voters against voting for candidates that do not advertise their position, who do not talk, and who are not seriously willing or able to contribute, as Phobos is probably the most consequential planet in all of Antares and deserves attentive and cooperative MPs.


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**RiseofFilth**:	Specifically, Xepiov. For those of you on multiple planets across Antares, you see this name pop up quite a bit on various planet elections. To offer my perspective, I have never seen this person talk in chat. I’ve never seen his name on the community discord. I’ve never heard his voice. I’ve never met anyone else who has actually managed to get a response or had a conversation with this person. What I have seen is his heavy handed and wasteful contributions to small planets he is able to get elected on, like SE-866e. He clearly does not understand the mechanics of governing and has never once, in years of seeing his name around on the various planets I’ve managed, ever communicated with anyone. I think his ignorance of mechanics and refusal to communicate and work as a team is dangerous to the stability and management of a planet like Phobos, and would highly encourage everyone to vote for another candidate in this, and any other, election.


[26-Sep-24 09:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	It only takes 24 hours of MPs being busy with real life to miss a single vote and 20mil~ of cash in Phobos wallet being stolen by a bad actor.


[26-Sep-24 09:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	The existing government, of myself, Archiel, Rogue, Aries, and Scorpy are all a fine choice, but if you wanted to pick another, you are welcome to do so. I would ask that as a voter, you should choose a person that is capable and willing to at least communicate with their fellow MPs and further work as a team. And that’s the bare minimum.


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**Archiel**:	I also endorse maintaining the current governor and parliament situation on Phobos. I think Phobos is a shining star of cooperation in Antares


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**ROGUE_HX**:	This is my first term on Phobos. I'm new to paliament here. But let me tell you my experience. Rise and Archeil have really have good intention both toward new players, this planet and Anthares region. They willing to consult and comment our though on 'how to manage the planet'. I would not mind other would take the seat instead of me. If you don't have anyone taking seat in your heart on this planet, I reccommend you to vote for them. Prosper to Antares.


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**Dzentak**:	I support the Re-elect the Incumbents campaign, keep up the good work!


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!


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**Dzentak**:	3h21m until electronics expert 5 :D


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**NouB**:	i bought something when my ship was in orbit, where is the inventory in the station?


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**Minecrafter8001**:	Once the buy order has been fufiled there should be a contract to collect what you bought from the station


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**Roh**:	CONTS


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**Roh**:	If your materials are not in your CX WAR buffer... they're in a cont, that is holding those materials in escrow for you as a cont.


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**MaddinYokohoma**:	Hey guys, I'm new so I'm tryna figuring out the start. The game is basically creating and selling goods right?


[28-Sep-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**MaddinYokohoma**:	So I was wondering. If I was to for example build Exoskeletons it would be really dumb cuz the base materials cost more than the finished product right?


[28-Sep-24 06:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**sidepipe**:	@MaddinYokohama - to your first question, yes, basically :)


[28-Sep-24 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**sidepipe**:	For the second, try playing around with https://prunplanner.org if you haven't used it before. It's a tool that lets you set up bases in a sandbox with real market data so you can see how profitable different things are

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[28-Sep-24 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It's a commodity game, that's also an idler, of a very long-term nature, in the years.


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**Roh**:	Results are slow at first, your ships take forever to go places, and player activity is generally slothful.


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**Roh**:	It's a good change of pace, from like Foxhole or Warthunder. :)


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**NouB**:	thanks! found it


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**Scorpy.**:	Carbon on LM under CX


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**Scorpy.**:	Lots of small shipping contracts at ANT to Phobos. Recommended for newer folks


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**Scorpy.**:	Howdy!


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**RiseofFilth**:	Welcome!


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Ello gov'na


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**eminence32**:	hey, i know you, you built me a ship!


[10-Oct-24 06:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	You any many others :). Hows it treatin ya? Would you believe I'm actually catching up on my queue? I'm under 2 weeks for a delivery these days


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**RiseofFilth**:	@TRUEnterprises o7


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**eminence32**:	i hope all the dust has settled from the UPF move


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**eminence32**:	i've just plopped down a tiny base here on phobos because i've never anything with Electronics and i wish to start


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**RiseofFilth**:	Yeah! Its up and near full speed! Just need those final experts!


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**RiseofFilth**:	I highly recommend making some Solar panels...


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**eminence32**:	thanks for the suggesting, i'll plug that into my planning sheets


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**eminence32**:	looks like the costs to make those are a bit high for me at the moment, mostly because of things like CU/BCO/BRO


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**RiseofFilth**:	if only you knew a guy who had that stuff in excess


[11-Oct-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	man


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**RiseofFilth**:	who


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**RiseofFilth**:	could


[11-Oct-24 01:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	have


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**RiseofFilth**:	it


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**eminence32**:	wait wait i know how to play this game.  is it Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Excess Metals?


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**mast3rd3mon**:	Has anyone heard from @Insula_Crisium recently? Been trading with him for ages and I currently have a 24m contract with him outstanding. The money isnt exactly the issue, but that contract is my entire food supply for all of my planets for a month so without it, I'm screwed


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**YuLun**:	haven't heard from him for quite a while either


[11-Oct-24 08:01 AM] ApexChat#8127
**YuLun**:	my best guess is he went on holiday or too busy


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**rahzo**:	Slow aand Steady!!!!


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**Roh**:	@mast3rd3mon I'd highly suggest routing out that contract, to potential other parties. Player drop-off in Prun, is a thing.


[11-Oct-24 10:01 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	I give most people 2 weeks, since that's my usual deadline for anything. I don't know anything regarding the comings and goings of Insula.... He's not online either, and I haven't been seeing their usual market activity either. Don't know.


[11-Oct-24 11:31 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mast3rd3mon**:	He's a big player so assumed he wouldnt be likely to just disappear. And I doubt I would be able to source 12k FIM in such a short notice from other players


[11-Oct-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Shrewdsun1**:	Everyone assumes hes gone


[11-Oct-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Shrewdsun1**:	Dropped out and ghosted about 1 month ago


[11-Oct-24 11:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Shrewdsun1**:	asked a few of hes corp mates a while ago


[11-Oct-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mast3rd3mon**:	Well unless I can get enough FIM for my bases, I'll have to stop playing too. Dont suppose you know anyone or a few people who produce plenty, do you?


[11-Oct-24 11:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Shrewdsun1**:	No how much do you need?


[11-Oct-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mast3rd3mon**:	Well I consume about 12k per month


[11-Oct-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Shrewdsun1**:	he didnt produce anythinf, only bought and resold. So the capacity is out there


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**mast3rd3mon**:	It was from his corp, but they probably now have other arrangements


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**Shrewdsun1**:	his corp is dead


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**Shrewdsun1**:	fell appart when he left


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**mast3rd3mon**:	theres still 4 others in it


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**Shrewdsun1**:	yeah but its not doing anything anymore


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**Shrewdsun1**:	it was a trading corp very top down directly from insula


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**Shrewdsun1**:	his employees basicly


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**Laaxus**:	@mast3rd3mon why not putting a bid order on the market ? I'm sure the market would react and start producing for you if you put such a large bid order


[12-Oct-24 08:49 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Laaxus**:	For example, I'm a fim producer, but I can't guarante you a production as market supply of her is not guaranteed


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**Scorpy.**:	I could produce FIM, i j dont


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**Scorpy.**:	make it worth it lol


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**Scorpy.**:	Easier to produce KOM with my HER


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**EvoV**:	I started dumping some of my FIM supply to the market. But I'm not a major producer of it. What bases do you have that you need 12k fim per month? That sounds like a lot of EDC farms?


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**Dzentak**:	Avalon producing FIM.IC1 on one permit is good enough for 4 EDC.IC1 bases, but requires 3 permits on Promitor to feed it HER.IC1


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**Rebs**:	There a way to get loans in this game?


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**mast3rd3mon**:	How much would you be looking to borrow?


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**Dzentak**:	@Rebs loan contracts are possible, you will need to be Pro/Basic to be able to use them


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**Rebs**:	Ah will have to wait until I get round to buying pro.


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**kkami**:	Ayo, hows things?


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**eminence32**:	👋


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**Ulricmag**:	Restarted


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**Ulricmag**:	Bought too much random stuff.


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**DX_Plates**:	Yea your first few upgrades should be pretty well planned out it seems. Its slow going at first and you just slowly snowball over time.


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**kkami**:	Hahhaa yeah I know the feeling


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**kkami**:	Would be good if they allowed two consecutive restarts instead of just one, I restarted and managed to minorly mess up again


[17-Oct-24 07:07 AM] ApexChat#8127
**kkami**:	But nothing unfixable at least


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**Dzentak**:	yea the 30day wait hits hard if you decide you made a critical mistake


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**kkami**:	Yeah, I get it's probably to stop people just trading away their cash and resetting loads but eh


[17-Oct-24 10:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Dzentak**:	I did that myself, started the game, read a guide and restarted which I found out was folly and then needed to restart again.  I just left the game for a month at that point


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**kkami**:	Why did you come back?


[17-Oct-24 11:03 AM] ApexChat#8127
**kkami**:	that sounded a bit dickish, but you know what I mean?


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**Ulricmag**:	It allowed me to restart consecutively. Realised the farmstead doesnt only produce BEA


[17-Oct-24 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	a note for other new players, not necessarily you:   after you construct a building, you have a short period of time (a few hours) in which you can deconstruct the building and get back 100% of your input materials.  this can be useful to correct any building or planning mistakes


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**Scorpium**:	A belated welcome to Phobos @eminence32. You finally made the trip 😀


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**Dzentak**:	@kkami I liked the premise of the game but having stranded myself without return fuel or resources I figured waiting 30 days was better than begging for help back then.  I didn't subscribe until about 6 months into my latest start


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**eminence32**:	thank you @Scorpium !  it's nice to be here :)


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**kkami**:	Yeah I do appreciate the reconstruction mechanic. Used it a lot after my restart haha


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**Ulricmag**:	morning everyone


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**Ulricmag**:	i still have 9h8m til my GRN is done


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**TRUEnterprises**:	hey ulric


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**Ulricmag**:	i forgot how eve online was like this


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**eminence32**:	@Ulricmag but no getting ganked at warpgates


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**kkami**:	Carbon gone wild


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**DX_Plates**:	Eve except all the PvP is market PvP LUL


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**rahzo**:	I refuse to sell Carbon on CX lol, i would be drowning


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**rahzo**:	All i make is C, whats a company gotta do to survive


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**rahzo**:	Also looking into building a ship to move C if anyone can offer some prices or people, it will be my first ship. So i been saving


[21-Oct-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**kkami**:	Just checking, is there a cap to the number of buildings of the same time?


[21-Oct-24 03:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**kkami**:	*type


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**kkami**:	so like, can I go above 5 smelters or is it capped at queue length


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**eminence32**:	you're just limited by base area


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**kkami**:	Perfection thanks


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**rahzo**:	CQM.AI1 and LCB.AI1, why so expensive


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**kkami**:	low liquidity


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**GustavLilja**:	hej


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**Mr.Crowley**:	hallå


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**GustavLilja**:	ska komma och döda dig


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**Mr.Crowley**:	:O


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**GustavLilja**:	:O


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**eminence32**:	hi


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**Mr.Crowley**:	hello


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**kkami**:	How goes phobos all?


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**sidepipe**:	Quiet and profitable :)


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**Arbids**:	Is this the comms for landowners on Antares I - Phobos?


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**eminence32**:	it sure is!


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**Arbids**:	Lovely


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**Arbids**:	Nice to meet yous


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**Arbids**:	Just started out and acquired a plot here


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Welcome to the game Arbids


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**kkami**:	Phobos best planet


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**MerchSkele**:	howdy and welcome to phobos!


[24-Oct-24 02:05 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Arbids**:	Cheers, I'm a metallurgist looking to satisfy some demand for metals on the exchange. Was picking between this planet and Deismos on Antares II and this seemed like the better option to start.


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**kkami**:	How goes the phobos crew?


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**eminence32**:	phobtastic


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Churning and burning


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**RiseofFilth**:	@arbids I'm sorry to tell you this... Unfortunately the other way


[25-Oct-24 01:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	This is a great planet for electronics, but that type of industry is not a good starter industry (also, you cant start in electronics)


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**RiseofFilth**:	Deimos also cannot be gotten on any other way due to plot limits other than starting there


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**RiseofFilth**:	Deimos or Promitor are both great starting locations for Metallurgy and Farming respectively


[25-Oct-24 02:23 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Arbids**:	Ah ok, what would you say makes Deimos or Promitor better options for metallurgists?


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**MerchSkele**:	howdy, also if you want easy cash i reccomend being self suffiecent in carbon production so your smelters can constantly run so you always have a source of metals on hand,


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**MerchSkele**:	such as gold!


[25-Oct-24 02:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Arbids**:	Yeah carbon is definitely on the to-do list


[25-Oct-24 02:36 AM] ApexChat#8127
**MerchSkele**:	and it all depends on what you are wanting to focus on produciing. or you can try to do eerythign on your own but that'll take more time to be self suffiecent and you would need more than 1 planet to do that.


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**Arbids**:	At the moment I'm working on silicon and iron metal production while expanding to later extract the other two resources here as well (especially oxygen). Once I'm extracting all four I'll probably look at their derivatives to see what production method works best with what I'm already making? Sort of like a bottom up approach.


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**Arbids**:	If I ever go beyond metals it'd definitely be chemicals though.


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**kkami**:	Carbon prices in antares are a rollercoaster, debating setting up some production


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**kkami**:	or do we already have a carbon cultist


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**TRUEnterprises**:	More carbon is always welcome and is an easy sale


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**sidepipe**:	Basically everything uses carbon and it’s cheap to make, so it’s a good place to expand into :)


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**sidepipe**:	Prices here are usually quite stable, but we had someone buy up a lot of carbon and re-list it higher recently, which is great for anyone looking to sell


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**eminence32**:	yes please, the universe needs more carbon producers


[26-Oct-24 02:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	@Arbids, Deimos is a metallurgy planet if you look at the COGC bonus. Promitor is a farming world. I highly recommend you do not settle worlds or construct industry that does not align with the local COGC bonus of that planet. (the only exception is resource extraction, as you gotta get stuff somewhere)


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hey Phobos! It is the end of the month, and that means elections on all the hotest elections in Antares, not to mention the real world. But lets talk about Phobos. I'm going to repeat what I said a month ago now, as it remains true now. The current Government of myself, Rogue_HX, AriesNation, and Scorpy. have led things pretty smoothy. If I may be so bold, I think we've done a damn good job and kept things running smoothly while the pop has been growing. Not only that, I think we've been attentive to requests for regional growth by distributing money to improve infrasture for all Antareans. I hope you will continue to support and distribute your votes as needed to the lowest recipients like Rogue_HX, Scorpy, and Aries to ensure that trusted and reliable members of our community retain the power to vote on Phobos. Thank you!


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hotest planets*


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**RiseofFilth**:	[always happens when you type ingame :( ]


[26-Oct-24 03:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	As a reminder and info for new players, the top 5 candidates in vote count are the members of Parliament. So please vote to to support current Parliamentarians: Scorpy., Rogue_HX, and Ariesnation to bring them to the top 5!


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**Arbids**:	Thanks for the advice @[HEPH] RiseofFilth. Deimos doesn't have any available plots but I'm definitely on the lookout for other planets like Deimos that are metallurgy specialised.


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**kkami**:	Down with the government!


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**rzuraf**:	@Arbids I moved with my metallurgy to Vulcan, it's close by and quite decent


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**Arbids**:	Oh Vulcan on Antares II? Yeah I see that there's always a metallurgy boost being done there with good iron. Good tip!


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**rzuraf**:	only issue is high pressure, but it's not that bad


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**TrustAir**:	can some one pleasy give me 100 ST fuel in Antares 1-Phobos i dont have money please help me


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**Archiel**:	I don't have any fuel on Phobos, but I sent you a little cash.


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**TrustAir**:	10x


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**Archiel**:	OOG is again recruiting! We're looking for dedicated players in Antares space who want to be part of something bigger. You must be active on discord and have Pro. For more information, see: https://oogcapitalmanagement.com/shareholders/joining/

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**RiseofFilth**:	IY-816C is also a good metallurgy spot


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!!


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**rahzo**:	Hows everyone doing?


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**rzuraf**:	Slow and Steady!


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**rahzo**:	Good to hear. Same here. Finally operating with more than a mil in reserves lol


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**TrustAir**:	can some one pleasy give me 100 ST fuel in Antares 1-Phobos i dont have money please help me


[29-Oct-24 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**MaCaME_**:	how can i send it?


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**aisatev**:	if you are not free acc make me a personal contract


[29-Oct-24 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**aisatev**:	him


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**TrustAir**:	i make a order on local market pls some one sell me fuel


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**TuffyLess**:	umm, CoGC?


[30-Oct-24 12:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	I got it.


[30-Oct-24 12:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	I keep at least one whole COGC worth of stuff just for this situation


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**Razenpok**:	̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿'̿'\̵͇̿\з= ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) =ε/̵͇̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿


[30-Oct-24 06:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TuffyLess**:	thanks for the CoGC save Arch!  Glad this guy has backup like yourself. :)


[30-Oct-24 06:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TuffyLess**:	xepiov surely wouldnt have been there to save the day. ha


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**RiseofFilth**:	Big sad, I was hoping for a perfect year


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**RiseofFilth**:	cest la vie, always next year


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**detsalb**:	just put in my first orders for iron ore and the nprocessing iron or in the smelter i take it this will take some time?


[31-Oct-24 02:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Arbids**:	Production orders you make on your buildings like your smelter will take to finish. You get a notification once it's done.


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**detsalb**:	thank you for the info


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**detsalb**:	something i feal confused about and is not covered in the tuturoials or i missed it. is how to move items out of for example my smelter once the order is done. i cant tell how and its not in my base inventory


[31-Oct-24 12:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ravve**:	All products do go to your base inventory.


[31-Oct-24 01:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**detsalb**:	my smelter hasnt but it could be a graphical glitch except the produced items arent in my inventory now


[31-Oct-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Ravve**:	Hmm. It takes at least 12 hours to produce something in the smelter.


[31-Oct-24 01:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**detsalb**:	i started it late last night and it says its been done for almost 2 hours. myabe its waiting on the extractor to finish since im still in the tutorial?


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**KZ_Kawasaki**:	Or maybe your base inventory is full? You can open a new warehouse


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**Scorpy.**:	Cheap carbon LM


[01-Nov-24 09:05 AM] ApexChat#8127
**GriwMF**:	Hi. I'm on Phobos with Electronics cogs. Doing metallurgy now. Any ideas with what  electronics production may be interesting to start??


[01-Nov-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	I waited a very long time to switch off of metals and carbon into electronics


[01-Nov-24 10:44 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	heck, I havent even fully converted yet im still working on it


[01-Nov-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	Phobos isnt the friendliest place to start at but id recommend not getting into electronics instantly


[01-Nov-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpy.**:	Somebody might have conflicting advice, theres plenty of ways to play, but personally id wait


[01-Nov-24 11:37 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	I also had to make a base elsewhere before just recently coming back to start electronics on Phobos. You probably need a solid income base elsewhere before trying electronics.


[01-Nov-24 11:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mast3rd3mon**:	my worst electronics planet brings me in 375k profit daily, I make 483k profit here daily. If you have a stable consumables supply, its pretty easy to get into


[01-Nov-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mast3rd3mon**:	just expensive as the building are RFabs


[01-Nov-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	yea, and you got the money to buy any inputs you want and wait for a sale


[01-Nov-24 11:41 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	this dude is 16 days old


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**mast3rd3mon**:	I dont have to spend on inputs, thats the luxury of specific electronics


[01-Nov-24 11:42 AM] ApexChat#8127
**mast3rd3mon**:	but yeah, 16 days in is a bit early


[01-Nov-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	try to remember what it is like to start in this game without any outside help


[01-Nov-24 11:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	100k is a fortune


[01-Nov-24 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**GriwMF**:	thanks. Yep, I know I will not switch today, just asking some advice where to look at in the future. Like is Electronic Device Manufactory any good, or should I check Cleanroom or something first


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**kkami**:	Buying 40x AL on LM


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**Laaxus**:	anybody comming from ant ?


[03-Nov-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Laaxus**:	I'm starting to miss  a bit of rep, so I put a LM Ad


[03-Nov-24 01:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Laaxus**:	(on antares LM)


[03-Nov-24 06:56 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Also popped down a couple ads on ANT LM


[03-Nov-24 07:01 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Ty


[04-Nov-24 01:36 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	WTB Carbon XD


[04-Nov-24 05:07 AM] ApexChat#8127
**kkami**:	the inners have taken the carbon?


[04-Nov-24 06:26 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Arbids**:	C.AI1 1268 AIC spread hahahaha


[04-Nov-24 06:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Someone's playing funny buggers. AR to a lesser extent too


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**rahzo**:	I stopped selling Carbon on the exchange, to messy. Flat rate of 745 pickup on ANT if you want some message me. I can also trade for consumables or ship repair parts, not often but message me if interested


[04-Nov-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**rahzo**:	nvm out of C for now. check back later


[04-Nov-24 11:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Remember, if you're on Phobos (and have Pro) you are eligible for an ADI grant. So adding a few cleanrooms is within your price range as a new player. (although still maybe not too strongly recommended)


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**QuietTrails**:	hello ^_^


[04-Nov-24 08:51 PM] ApexChat#8127
**QuietTrails**:	hows your days going? ^_^


[04-Nov-24 08:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	Hi Quiet, hows the game so far?


[04-Nov-24 09:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**QuietTrails**:	its a bit slow but it looks like my cup of tea ^_^


[04-Nov-24 10:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	Cool, if you use discord there is a lot more chatting taking place in there


[04-Nov-24 10:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**QuietTrails**:	Im kinda scared lmao ~_~


[04-Nov-24 10:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**QuietTrails**:	but I'll give it a shot ^_^


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**rahzo**:	anyone got like 30 MCG on planet


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**rahzo**:	got an ad on LM, way to lazy to look at price, so pretty sure i over paided but i want it now so idc lol


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**Scorpium**:	Sold


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**rahzo**:	lol


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**rahzo**:	Slow and Steady!!!


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**TrustAir**:	why is money so slow, did they have some trick to collect money faster


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**eminence32**:	it's a bit of a slow game sometimes


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**Laichonious**:	there's a fair bit of ramping to do


[09-Nov-24 01:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	its a function of time.


[09-Nov-24 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	spend more time in game.. more money, and more stuff to do - to get that money!


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**Laaxus**:	Prosperous CEOs looking to connect with you in you area! Looking for help, advice or just some chit-chat? The Antares Development Initiative (ADI) got you covered! Did you know: We also provide new players a 1,000,000 AIC grant (free money, not a loan) to kickstart you out of the early game right into your next big business. https://discord.gg/9eY7mMgf4J


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**kkami**:	BSE/BBH/LDE up on local market. Larger orders available on request.


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**kkami**:	gaem go brrt:


[14-Nov-24 04:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**kkami**:	https://jumpshare.com/s/NbZClTHqVUbAqbvnGMat


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**eminence32**:	i seem to have misplaced my MCG -- does anyone have 320 they can sell me?  ad in LM


[15-Nov-24 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	thank you!


[15-Nov-24 10:39 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	oh lol, i found my missing MCG -- it was in my warehouse


[15-Nov-24 10:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Scorpium**:	/facepalm 😂


[15-Nov-24 10:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Yeah, auto transfer mechanics on ships are BASE > WAR.


[15-Nov-24 10:46 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	I keep up a WAR inventory at all times, linked to my bases, whenever I check up on them.


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**eminence32**:	there's a very good chance that i myself moved the MCG and just forgot about it


[15-Nov-24 10:52 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	i should have known to look there because the thing i was trying to build with the MCG was a STO because i'm out of base storage (and the first thing you do when you're out of base storage is build a warehouse....)


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**Supercitzen902**:	bbc


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**skif**:	hacker give me money plz


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Because he has no name?


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**eminence32**:	this isn't GTA, we don't have hackers giving out free money


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**skif**:	hacker kill this guy


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**Zeroeyez**:	Greetings


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**eminence32**:	welcome to phobos


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**ROGUE_HX**:	HEAR ME!! HEAR ME!!     Phobos Election has started, cast your vote to Phobos. May prosperous to PHOBOS!!


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**igfloz**:	CEOs hate this trick! The Antares Development Initiative (ADI) provides new players a 1,000,000 AIC grant (free money, not a loan) to kickstart you out of the early game right into your next big buisness! If you're looking for help, advice or just some chit-chat, you're more then welcome to join our Discord. https://discord.gg/9eY7mMgf4J


[24-Nov-24 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Every player is a CEO, bruh... Why would they hate #free-money? Lolz


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**vinsmoke_sanji**:	HELLO PEOPLE


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**Finest_One**:	Please remember to vote for electronics. Thank you.


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**vinsmoke_sanji**:	hello


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Hi vinsmoke


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**vinsmoke_sanji**:	how u doin


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**TRUEnterprises**:	just cranking out the products for sale


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Wdym vote for electronics? Is there a team looking to change the COGC


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**Okawari**:	A single player has opted to vote for Metallurgy instead. We're not in any danger of changing the COGC atm


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**rzuraf**:	wow that would be painfull :D


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**Hal98**:	I voted for COGC :)


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Honestly forgot that you could vote for COGC, ty for the reminder Finest


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	A few ANT -> Phobos shipping conts up on the ANT LM if anyone is about to set sail for a beautiful blue/green globe


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**SpectacledHusky**:	I started in manufacturing what to do now


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	Profit


[06-Dec-24 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	you can do it hard way and stay here or do COLIQ and start over somwhere else


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**eminence32**:	i might be in the minority, but i think you can start doing any type of production on any type of planet


[06-Dec-24 05:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	profit margins are rarely so thin that you need the 25% COGC bonus to be profitable.  of course you can be *more* profitable by matching your production to the planet, but it's not an absolute requirement


[06-Dec-24 05:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	I'd go further and say that at the PIO and SET tiers that their upkeep is so low that you can build that tier. Of course, when you are playing with ENG and SCI they cost a lot to just exist in your employ so you need the extra efficiency


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**jvaler**:	does anyone have 1 BBH .-.


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**jvaler**:	it must have fallen out of my ship somehow... and i need it for POPR in 20hrs lol


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**jvaler**:	ad on LM


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**jvaler**:	taken, ty


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**Roh**:	that sounds like a good corp ticker... [+1] lol..


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**rzuraf**:	Slow and steady anyone?


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**rzuraf**:	Rahzo has left the planet so no more "Slow and Steady!" cheering :(


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**ROGUE_HX**:	I supply him on moving on other planets, he still grow SLOW AND STEADY!!.


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**MerchSkele**:	slow n steady is good as well as being self sufficent in many areas so price changes don't affect me too much.


[19-Dec-24 12:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**MerchSkele**:	anyways take your time and enjoy playing the game todols ya'll!


[19-Dec-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	being 100% self sufficient is not entirely the goal of the game :D


[19-Dec-24 02:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**rzuraf**:	but yeah it helps ;)


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**Roh**:	This game's goal... is entirely what you want it to be. <3


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**eminence32**:	that is:  do whatever you think is fun!


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**rzuraf**:	>:3


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**MerchSkele**:	it is indeed not the entirely the goal of the game but it is my goal to be honest. since well in time I'll be able to make my own 3rd ship slowly as i am still getting parts for it at the moment...


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**vidilet**:	Back to Phobos since first spawning here as game start. (coliq'ed first phobos base). It the bussiness weather here nice?


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**rzuraf**:	depends on the winds of economy


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**rzuraf**:	but yeah, not bad


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**vidilet**:	Double distance to the star makes double travel time (


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**vidilet**:	I already got used to being closer to sun


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**TheSeraphim**:	Hello


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**TRUEnterprises**:	Hi Seraphim


[27-Dec-24 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**vidilet**:	Hello, Seraphim. As you are new player, you may not know that Phobos is not a great place for start. So after looking around and getting info you may want to use opportunity to relocate to neighboring planet


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**vidilet**:	I think there is a help period that allows to demolish buildings and pack materials for free in first two hours


[27-Dec-24 09:36 AM] ApexChat#8127
**vidilet**:	Other than that, there is no shame in one use of COLIQ command to restart and selecting a more fitting first planet (you don't have to build on a starter planet, it is allowed to travel first)


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**eminence32**:	i don't want to disagree with vidilet (i didn't start my company in this part of the universe, so i'm not very familiar with it), but i do want to say it's 100% possible to start a successful company on any of starter planets (including Phobos)


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**TheSeraphim**:	I'll keep that in mind if things don't pan out here.


[27-Dec-24 09:43 AM] ApexChat#8127
**TheSeraphim**:	Thank you.


[27-Dec-24 10:13 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	yeah, it's incredibly hard to fail in this game, since there are like so many possibilities... You may do better/worse than others, depending on your choices, but still it's incredibly hard, if you put in some time into it all. :D


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**TheSeraphim**:	Reminds me of Eve lol


[27-Dec-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Ohh no, in Eve you can fail hard.


[27-Dec-24 10:28 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Try out mining in a HS system, in a retriever, and you will get blown to bits within 30 minutes...


[27-Dec-24 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Try the same thing by joining a corp in NS, and run down to one of their systems... You won't get blown up for months, unless you decide to mine on the weekends.


[27-Dec-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	it is possible to fail so badly in PrUn that you're forced to restart, but that's *really hard*.


[27-Dec-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	yeah... add an extra digit to a CXPO market order form...


[27-Dec-24 10:30 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	that's the only way I can think of you failing hard in Prun.


[27-Dec-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	or maybe get your ship stranded somewhere without fuel.   but even then, the devs will often look kindly on you, and fill you up


[27-Dec-24 10:31 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	even then (akin with the ship stranding)... if you have pro, just reach out to someone in general, or planetary chats.


[27-Dec-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	just reach out to the seller if you made a mistake, and they'll easily be able to refund your purchase... It'll take a day or a week, but it'll usually be done? idk.


[27-Dec-24 10:32 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	yeah, it's almost impossible to fail if you have pro, but not everyone has pro


[27-Dec-24 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It's a "hidden" incentive, for you to buy at least 1 month of pro, so that you get turned from a TRIAL, into a BASIC.


[27-Dec-24 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	as a basic, you can reach out to other PROs ;)


[27-Dec-24 10:33 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	yep, basic is a fantasic deal, i think


[27-Dec-24 10:34 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	PRO <--> BASICs have an innate synergy... Cheap permits on the latter... Cheap logistics on the former. It's best for either to work out what each needs via negotiation though...


[27-Dec-24 10:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	Hopping into guaranteed "rental" arrangements isn't the best imo, since I can usually find better deals.


[27-Dec-24 10:36 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Roh**:	It's an "arms race". Lots of low-ball offers trying to capture whatever's left of a saturated market on #UFO anyways. :/


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**Frentic**:	Hello, I might need some scientists next popi report. Gov, can we invest in some? o7


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**Frentic**:	I can def donate the money for tthe mats if needed


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**Frentic**:	or program


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**Dzentak**:	We need a festivities, I also built scientists this POPR :/


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**eminence32**:	a new years eve party, perhaps?


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**Dzentak**:	something to stop the brain drain due to scientist happiness


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**Frentic**:	Crap... government did nothing, now a gazillion scientists open jobs.


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**Dzentak**:	looks like unemployment was part of the problem


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**Dzentak**:	we could use another education program


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**opie**:	I put an ad on the market for 100 OVE if anyone has some to be spared.


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**Archiel**:	That's an impressive jump! I've kicked off an education program


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**Dzentak**:	awesome ty Archiel


[01-Jan-25 11:47 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Yeah sorry I don't watch all my planet chats super closely, don't hesitate to ping me in discord


[01-Jan-25 11:48 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Dzentak**:	on that note i just pinged you on malahat planet chat regarding a LM contract, will be filled in 9h


[01-Jan-25 11:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**saldsraht**:	hows sites owner whats news here in phobos any itresting votings or so on


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**Tanda**:	I'm making DW


[02-Jan-25 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**saldsraht**:	nice i need that alot


[02-Jan-25 02:11 AM] ApexChat#8127
**saldsraht**:	do you sell it in what price


[02-Jan-25 02:40 AM] ApexChat#8127
**opie**:	I, too, am making DW and you will find that my DW is of exceptional purity with minimal dissolved oxygen content.


[02-Jan-25 07:04 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Raifur**:	And in other news; Blue Fox company has been established with a base on Phobos. Unverified sources have speculated that the managing director had previously owned a startup company on Promitor (VH-331a) in the Hortus system. Analysts are at a loss for words as Blue Fox company opens their first fuel refinery today.


[02-Jan-25 09:04 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Katinga**:	If you want to refine fuel, come to the Romulus system.  All of the ingredients for SF are there, and Remus is a Fuel Refining COGC :)


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	You ever get this smell of gas but can't quite figure out where it's coming from? The whole system smells like that. Just ever so faintly of eggs


[02-Jan-25 10:17 AM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	sometimes the smell gets worse when it rains


[02-Jan-25 10:29 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Raifur**:	@Katinga, thank you for that vital life changing advice!


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**Raifur**:	I need to really build myself up for this move though つ﹏⊂


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**Tanda**:	Have you considered making DW?


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**Spermatozoon_Saloon**:	If anyone's flying down to Hephaestus, I've got something that needs to be there asap and I'd appreciate it greatly if someone would ship it!


[03-Jan-25 09:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**jvaler**:	Hello yet again Antares! The Antares Development Initiative is here to let all the newbies know about our offer to upgrade your starter 500t/500m^3 ships into WCB 3000t/1000m^3 ships! | Our in-house Project Ship Kit™ has been up and running for some time now and we have ~30 WCB upgrade kits to sell. | They cost ₳1.35mil each, however we also offer financing to help you cover this cost. | This takes the form of a 0% interest 90 day loan, which comes out to just ₳15k/d in cost. | If you're interested, join the ADI server and let us know! https://discord.gg/N6bXSuvbuw


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**Raifur**:	DW is just not my dream /ᐠ｡ꞈ｡ᐟ\


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**Freeloader**:	gotta follow the passion


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**eminence32**:	this is the way


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**opie**:	gotta follow the $$


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**vinsmoke_sanji**:	hello


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**vinsmoke_sanji**:	world


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**TRUEnterprises**:	How's business vinsmoke?


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**Frentic**:	o7


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**Hal98**:	I like making DW here


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**Frentic**:	I just donated several popi items for high tier workers. Need to accelerate a bit on scientists. Probably overdid a bit lol o7


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**Rakkzi**:	WTB 400 scientists


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**Archiel**:	Okay, I added some DW to safety, gotta pump up everything else also otherwise they will get capped by the other tiers


[18-Jan-25 02:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	The education jobs are queued up, so the education out numbers will be proportional to the happiness of each tier, plus the bonuses. Personally, I think the size of the deficit warrants a little extra investment


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**Archiel**:	I can't speak for Rise though


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**Scorpium**:	posted 2 shipping contracts for Ant station drop off. Ideal for new starters ;)


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[21-Jan-25 01:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	good afternoon everyone. new player that aint got a clue what Im doing lol


[21-Jan-25 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	welcome :)


[21-Jan-25 01:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	dont know if it was a smart idea, but I started as a Metalergust


[21-Jan-25 01:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I think for the starting tutorial Im at "wait for production to complete" stage


[21-Jan-25 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	sounds about right


[21-Jan-25 01:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I assume the 13 hour timer for my smelter cooking Iron Ore is Real Time


[21-Jan-25 01:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	yep!


[21-Jan-25 01:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	alright.... the next main question I have will be how do I supply my Base. or more, how do I move my ships to get what I need to fill my base with stuff


[21-Jan-25 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	FLT button on left side, select destination and choose fuel spend. You should go slow at the start as you probably shouldnt spend more than you have to on fuel


[21-Jan-25 01:23 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	drag and drop cargo between base and ship with both boxes open


[21-Jan-25 01:24 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	the local CX is Antares station, find what you want to buy or sell and select trade


[21-Jan-25 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	asking cause my next task after the current one will be to pick up materials I think for more building but unsure beyond that


[21-Jan-25 01:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	yep, just follow the tutorial as it will pay you well to complete the tasks


[21-Jan-25 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	pretty much give you all the materials to build more buildings when complete


[21-Jan-25 01:26 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	well, I do have 13 or so hours to wait... but ofc I wanna learn what I can for now


[21-Jan-25 01:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	it looks like it wants me to pick up stuff for my ships where they currently are


[21-Jan-25 01:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	...looking at the contract, it says "pick up 3 different lots of stuff" where my base is. is that the tutorial giving me materials then


[21-Jan-25 01:31 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I also very much approve of my Pioneer workforce wanting "Caffinated INfusion"


[21-Jan-25 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	when you look at a contract, there is a column for "party".  if that column is empty, that means that you have to do the thing listed in the "condition" column.


[21-Jan-25 01:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	if the "party" column has someone else's name there, that means the other party has to do the thing on that line


[21-Jan-25 01:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	it says Antares Chief Admin Officer for the party tab on all of it


[21-Jan-25 01:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	btw, did you accept the contract?


[21-Jan-25 01:48 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	Ive not had to do that before.. it says "closed". I assume its a tutorial thing to auto accept them but unsure


[21-Jan-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	ok, that's accepted.  a "closed" contract means that both parties have accepted it


[21-Jan-25 01:49 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	ah


[21-Jan-25 01:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	was it smart of me to fill my extractor and refiner queue with tasks?


[21-Jan-25 01:52 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	yeah.  idle buildings just waste money, so keeping them busy is important


[21-Jan-25 01:53 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	given the IRL timeframe on here, they will be churin for a while


[21-Jan-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	note that there's no efficiency or cost advantage to queuing up bigger orders


[21-Jan-25 01:55 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I didnt see when I queued things to git larger lots of stuff


[21-Jan-25 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	so if you can extract 4 FEO in 13 hours, or 8 FEO in 26 hours, the overall efficiency is the same


[21-Jan-25 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	there is an "order size" slider you can play with


[21-Jan-25 01:56 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	OH!!!


[21-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I see it now


[21-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	atm Im browsing the star map looking at systems


[21-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	i mention this because sometimes new players slide that thing all the way to the right and have to wait like 2 weeks before anything gets produced :)   if your production time is 13 hours then you have an order size of 1 which is great


[21-Jan-25 01:57 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I know a second base is a ways off but its helping me learn some things


[21-Jan-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	glad I didnt notice that slider then... but I probably would have still chose the smaller amounts


[21-Jan-25 01:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	ahhh, you already have 90% of the game figured out, which is you make some stuff and then while you wait you plan like 9 steps ahead ;)


[21-Jan-25 01:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	the question Ive got while looking at the star map is, should I stay in faction or look at the white non-faction systems


[21-Jan-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	doesn't really matter


[21-Jan-25 02:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	for me personally, i pick my bases based on proximity to a commodify exchange


[21-Jan-25 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I guess for ease of being able to move the resources you make


[21-Jan-25 02:01 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	yeah


[21-Jan-25 02:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	my main base is over in the benten system, so it takes almost 2 days to fly here


[21-Jan-25 02:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	being a Met player, I chose Phobos for both its SIO and FEO ores


[21-Jan-25 02:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	i'm doing electronics here, but that requires SI and FE which is also why i picked phobos


[21-Jan-25 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	speaking of me playing as a Met player. when looking for things on the map, should I more look for Ores?


[21-Jan-25 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	this is hard to answer, because it depends on what you want to do


[21-Jan-25 02:08 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I guess since Im new I need to figure that out lol


[21-Jan-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	Im noticing a lot of repeat minerals and ores and the like across what Ive seent so far


[21-Jan-25 02:09 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	also note that your "chosen profession" of metallurgy just controls the starting materials the game gives you.   you can do anything you want


[21-Jan-25 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	thats fare


[21-Jan-25 02:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	metallurgy can be a bit of a challenge because the stuff is so heavy, so you can't fit a lot of it into your starter ships


[21-Jan-25 02:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I did see on the main site page is that you can do a fair bit of stuff in this game beyond resource extraction and processing


[21-Jan-25 02:12 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	i wrote up a guide of new players in the Benten system (which isn't this system.  Phobos is in the Antares system), but it talks about a lot of important things like costs-of-goods-manufactured and the chamber of global commerce


[21-Jan-25 02:13 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	so you might want to take a look (and just ignore all the stuff that says "welcome to Katoa") https://docs.google.com/document/d/10qdF6wEpZshm-ErQmjyELfjcDpuXh4ZJjlB_1Wcibk4/pub


[21-Jan-25 02:15 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	but the very very short summary is:  when deciding what to do, you should be aware of how profitable (or unprofitable) it will be.  and certain planets have bonuses that make them more profitable to do certain types of industry.   you don't have to chase maximum profits, but it's an important mechanic to the game to be familiar with


[21-Jan-25 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	thats fair


[21-Jan-25 02:16 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	for instance when looking at the star map I saw there was a star with an "ICe Mine" or something like name to the planet. which was I think a 100% water plant


[21-Jan-25 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	anyway while you read that, the answer to what to do next is mostly "what would be fun to do".  some players try to be as self-sufficient as they can, by making everything they need themselves.   other players focus in one just 1 material or 1 industry, trying to become the biggest producer of that item in the universe


[21-Jan-25 02:17 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	so that would be a great one to get a build on if I wanted large amounts of water for something.. I dont know if food needs water to grow


[21-Jan-25 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	I guess the thing that I find most fun for me is transportation


[21-Jan-25 02:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	yep!  you can build farms on fertile planets, or you can build hydroponics to grow things.  both require water.


[21-Jan-25 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	ahh, there are some players to do that, too.  warning:  it's hard.  the game is missing some key features to make the lives easier for logistics companies.  but it can be done.   you'll need a PRO license in order to build more ships


[21-Jan-25 02:19 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	ah


[21-Jan-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	for now Ill stick with the free license to get my feelers in the game


[21-Jan-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	smart


[21-Jan-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	it's the best way to get a feel for the game


[21-Jan-25 02:20 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	as well as work on building up my start


[21-Jan-25 02:22 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Zenton8787**:	COGM is a hard thing for me to wrap my mind around but I get the idea.. but the exact numbers are a bit hard


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**Zenton8787**:	specially when everything is written in acronym


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**eminence32**:	yes, there are a lot of acronyms in this game :)


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**eminence32**:	the basic idea of COGM is:   how much does it cost me to make a thing?  once you know that, you can compare it to how much you could buy it on the CX (in case it's a material you need) or how much you can sell it for (in case you're trying to sell it for profit)


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**Zenton8787**:	I guess its kinda a cost of living for the workers + there salaries (cost to make the material) that determains the base cost of the good you wanna sell


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**eminence32**:	yes.  each building requires workers to run.  and those workers requires consumables (food, water, tools, etc)


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**eminence32**:	so even if you're pulling stuff directly out of the ground (like your extractors), you have to provide the consumables for your workers, and that will cost you something


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**Zenton8787**:	and in the case of my Pioneers, Caffinated Infusions.. Yay coffee. my kinda people


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**eminence32**:	yep


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**Zenton8787**:	atm I have low living costs since Im new but I can see where this could grow


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**eminence32**:	to use the typical 3-letter code:  COF is not considered an "essential" consumable, so you don't need to provide it.  but if you do provide COF, your workers will work faster.  this means you can produce more stuff per day, which decreases your costs


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**Zenton8787**:	I just use it as my example cause I like coffee.. but yes, RAT and DW are essential


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**Zenton8787**:	and OVE


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**eminence32**:	the other thing to know is that your production buildings (like your extractor) will slowly degrade overtime, making them slower.  you'll need to repair them with materials.  but don't worry about this now, you don't have to deal with this for at least 2 months


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**eminence32**:	but this also adds to the cost of producing goods


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**Zenton8787**:	so IRL degradation time aswell


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**Zenton8787**:	I did see the repair button on my list of buildings


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**Zenton8787**:	2 days from benton isnt that bad I guess. I was looking at things in a neighbor star cluster but ofc I am still unsure what to produce yet


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**eminence32**:	i should also mention that some people like to fly out into the middle of absolute nowhere and try to survive.  i've never been brave enough to try that :)


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**Zenton8787**:	the true survivalists


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**Zenton8787**:	how do you build onto a planets population?


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**eminence32**:	you need to build up the "population infrastructure" on a planet, which are buildings that can support certain worker types


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**Zenton8787**:	would those be like the HABs the tutorial told me to make for my pioneers


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**eminence32**:	no.  HABs are buildings for your base.  but planetary buildings are something different


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**eminence32**:	open up a new buffer with this command:   POPI ZV-307d


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**Zenton8787**:	ok


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**eminence32**:	this will show you the infrastructure buildings for Phobos.  for example, there are 9 "Safety Stations"


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**Zenton8787**:	I would assume that the "Planetary Projects" are communal projects for the betterment of the whole planet


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**eminence32**:	they can be.  anyone can contribute to them.  but generally the government of a planet does most of the contributions


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**Zenton8787**:	ah. I do see that atm there is only 1 thing to contribute to. the shipyard. which was last added to about a year ago


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**menghui**:	Does our planet government collect taxes?If so ,it is government's duty to do contribution,right?


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**Deckss**:	taxes go to the "planet bank"


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**menghui**:	OMG!


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**menghui**:	so planet manager cannot use it?


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**Deckss**:	with motions can be withdrawn by parliament and the governor


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**eminence32**:	yes, taxes go into the bank account of the government.  anyone on parliament can propose a motion to spend that money


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**Dzentak**:	man still shy 33 scientists lol


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**Frentic**:	yeah it sucks to take several weeks to fix :/


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**Deckss**:	I got all mine this pop report


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**Booby**:	Hello!!!


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**Booby**:	How are you people?


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**Tanda**:	Greetings!


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**Booby**:	How are you my planet Comrad?


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**Tanda**:	Doing well this morning! Currently finding ways to use Phobos for other than its intended purpose (as is tradition)


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**Booby**:	Nice!!... How did you name your ships?


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**Tanda**:	oh, sec


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**Tanda**:	I decided to have fun with mine


[30-Jan-25 06:18 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Tanda**:	https://i.imgur.com/musAVuH.png

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**Booby**:	I Knew the last one!! saw it about two hours ago!! At zhe Antares Station


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**Tanda**:	heck yeah, I love that they're getting spotted in the wild


[30-Jan-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Booby**:	Well i was bored... so i just looked at all ships i coud find!!


[30-Jan-25 06:22 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Booby**:	But your ship was the best!!


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**Tanda**:	Thank you


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**Booby**:	Want to know my ships name?


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**Tanda**:	What are your ships' names?


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**Booby**:	SMS Drensteinfurt (my home city) And the mighty SMS Führsorger!! (Star Trek Voyager)


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**Tanda**:	Both of them are proud names


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**Booby**:	Want to know what languare the names come from?


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**Project_Teddy**:	hello  hello


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**eminence32**:	hi, welcome


[30-Jan-25 06:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Project_Teddy**:	thank you ^^


[30-Jan-25 07:02 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Project_Teddy**:	little question, game tells me to construct something but when i click on cuntruct nothing happens >_<


[30-Jan-25 07:03 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	when you click on the [Construct] button, a new window should popup (at least in the browser/desktop version.  i can't comment on the mobile interface)


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**Project_Teddy**:	ye it worked now just needed to restart the game


[30-Jan-25 07:07 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Project_Teddy**:	thank you ♥


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**0mnipresence**:	hello


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**0mnipresence**:	what have I got myself into? :)


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**skif**:	welcome to calculator


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**menghui**:	：》


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**Project_Teddy**:	hey guys, whats the best way to get my hands on recources early ?


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**eminence32**:	depends on the resource :)   each planet will have a few natural resources that you can collect (though this isn't always profitable).  for everything else, you'll buy stuff at a Commodity Exchange


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**eminence32**:	i somehow forgot to bring in consumables for my engineers.  buying 1 HSS and 1 PDA on the LM if anyone has some available


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**eminence32**:	fulfilled, thank you kindly


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**Wildgardener**:	if you need more let me know...


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**ANONYM0US**:	i forgot how good u got to be to play this bwhaha


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**eminence32**:	some people are probably just here for some comfy bean farming and nothing else


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**ANONYM0US**:	ITS just been awhile for me


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**eminence32**:	welcome back :)


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**AirbusFloA320**:	“I have a few things for sale on the local marketplace. Maybe someone is interested (ZR, W, DDT). Cheers!”


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**YuLun**:	I would have a 3k/1k WCB ship be here at Phobos after 2~3days


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**YuLun**:	2960t / 925m³ ANT>Phobos, 3k/1k return to ANT


[08-Feb-25 05:59 AM] ApexChat#8127
**YuLun**:	ANT>Phobos fully booked, unless you have something under 25t/m³  :p


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**Aaron987**:	I actually had an order from ANT for 15.5t/16.2m³


[08-Feb-25 06:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aaron987**:	but I sent a ship already, what's the transportation fee range for this service? for future references


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**YuLun**:	well just standard cost for shipping, it's not a routine service yet


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**Archiel**:	A reminder to everyone that Phobos has had a policy of offering grants to new or small planets in ANT space that need money to help make their upgrades. Phobos has a nice store of income right now, and it doesn't do any good just sitting there. So if you have a public good in mind in the region, please let someone on the Phobos team know (like me!)


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**Aaron987**:	well


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**Aaron987**:	that sounds like a good deal to me!! what am I suppose to do to access that offering situation @Archiel?


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**Aaron987**:	too bad population review happens in an hour .. T_T, not sure if it matters to me anymore though\


[11-Feb-25 10:34 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aaron987**:	I wanted so bad to grow my population in the first week.. but that's okay


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**eminence32**:	if i understand correctly, this is a grant for people trying to settle new *planets* nearby, not a people here on phobos with new bases


[11-Feb-25 10:36 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aaron987**:	I though diversifying my production lines would be a good idea: Starting as a metalurgist I went extractor collector farrmstead rig and smelter


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**Aaron987**:	ohhhh my bad, I saw free money and I thought that as for me xD


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**Aaron987**:	now I reflect on this I think I should have go 4 extractor 1 semlter and and another home for the pioneers


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**eminence32**:	as a new player on antares space, you absolutely can get other grants, though :)


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**eminence32**:	are you on any of the discord servers, like the UFO discord server?


[11-Feb-25 10:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Aaron987**:	to be honest I just connefcted to PU discord but Have not really checked it yet


[11-Feb-25 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	there are a lot of discord servers out there.  pretty much every major corp and co-op run their own server.


[11-Feb-25 10:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	i would join this one:  https://discord.gg/wap7QZyz


[11-Feb-25 10:42 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	and check out the "Galactic Deals" channel (in particular the post about the ADI -- Antares Development Initiative).  it will send you to yet another discord server, though


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**Aaron987**:	cheers mate,


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**Aaron987**:	appreciated your time


[11-Feb-25 10:47 PM] ApexChat#8127
**eminence32**:	happy to help, and welcome to the game!


[12-Feb-25 08:45 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Dyeus_Phter**:	The ADI discord is a fantastic way to jump into the game whether your going to play largely solo or coop.


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**RiseofFilth**:	Hey all. I've posted here (https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/1203083429676191765/1334124671741857832) that I've leaving the game for to focus on real life. Feel free to read. I'm posting here as I've been governor and/or upkeeped this planet for a long time. I hope new and younger players will step up to keep the planets running smoothly. Feel free to dm me in discord if you need advice or help. Farewell and all the best :)


[12-Feb-25 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dzentak**:	hope your next ventures are fruitful rise!


[12-Feb-25 06:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**RiseofFilth**:	Thx bud o7


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**MaCaME_**:	Bye :)


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**Dzentak**:	Vote for Phobos to provide 5k warehouse on Hephaestus(Shipyard) also possibly self improvement for 5k warehouse


[15-Feb-25 07:54 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Hi everyone, we had a motion for a grant from Tanda to develop two new construction planets, Lom Palanka and Black Mesa, on Antares I and one jump away. Details in this discord convo on UFO: https://discord.com/channels/855488309802172469/866583650278441000/1340463135974490214


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**Archiel**:	The second motion for the regional development fund is a motion to upgrade the University on Origo, a key chemistry planet in the region. This request is brought forth by Finest_One.


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**Archiel**:	And the third motion for regional development is an upgrade to the Heph warehouse to 5k/5k by Dzentak. Large warehouses get expensive, but Heph is somewhat unique in that it will host two gateways and is commonly used by shipbuilders.


[15-Feb-25 10:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Dzentak**:	<3


[15-Feb-25 10:29 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Generally 2k/2k is the sweet spot for warehouse upgrades in my opinion, so if other planets are in need, let us know!


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**Dzentak**:	A larger warehouse at Heph will enable larger shipyard projects to progress without having contract delivery failures :)


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**Andy97**:	Howdy


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**Tanda**:	Thank you to the taxpayers of Phobos for this grant. I would estimate development will take no more than 1-2 weeks


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	welcome to the worst electronics planet in the game


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**Tanda**:	currently making FIM here, it seems to be fine to me


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**eminence32**:	FIM:  the best electronic


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**Hal98**:	and so does john cena who speaks chinese


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**Tanda**:	what do you need help with?


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**Archiel**:	Hello citizens of Phobos! On behalf of your parliament and government team, thank you for your support in the recent election. We've been working together behind the scenes to put together an upkeep plan.


[25-Feb-25 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	You can find the core plan on the Phobos Governor Helper sheet here:


[25-Feb-25 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	And you can find a ledger of government expenses here:


[25-Feb-25 03:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xaZX9c4CmwcPsDytp4P67Eboj2lgyIr5uj9o4ui4pNo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

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Phobos Gov Ledger
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[25-Feb-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	The core plan establishes the cheapest possible minimum upkeep- keeping satisfaction above 50% is required to prevent loss of population, which can happen quite quickly when it drops below that level. Currently we have a sizable deficit of scientists- despite solid growth in the population, the job demand has continued to grow, so I'd like to move aggressively to close this gap up.


[25-Feb-25 03:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Education can be effective in the 50%-70% range, but if the POPI materials are available, we may go a bit higher in the short term.


[25-Feb-25 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	I've sent my first two 2k/2k ships of POPI mats up, and since some key materials including PFE/OLF/SOI are in short supply on the market, I will be upgrading the PAR a bit to help with comfort, and ensure the culture and education doesn't get capped.


[25-Feb-25 03:43 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	If you produce OFF, HOG, PFE, SOI, OLF, HAB and can sell directly to me at a decent price, please reach out. There's also room for DEC, HD, and HOG.


[25-Feb-25 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	And since there's a lot of nerds here, here are some fun charts. For more detail, please take a look at the sheets!


[25-Feb-25 03:44 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	http://kortham.net/temp/firefox_2025-02-25_15-44-27.png

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[25-Feb-25 03:45 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Finally, a reminder that Phobos runs a infrastucture development grant that can help underdeveloped planets add ADMs, COGCs, infrastructure, and warehouses up to 2k. Contract a Phobos MP with your proposal.


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**Darganith**:	evening all


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**eminence32**:	howdy


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	massive sciencestinction today D:


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**LapsedNortonSubscription**:	SOMEONE HELP


[26-Feb-25 08:02 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Tanda**:	Gotta love those wildcat SCI bases, eh?


[26-Feb-25 09:35 AM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Yeah it was a rough one, we had some shortage in the transition week. First round got filled riiiight after the popi. So sorry about that folks.


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**Tanda**:	Alright, well hopefully we get some ENG next week, I just dropped a base of that and got 2 ENG


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**Appletree23**:	NEW BASE


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**Appletree23**:	wahoo


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**Tanda**:	grats! I hope you're running PIO!


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**Appletree23**:	yep


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**Appletree23**:	wont be using that much tho, once my base is maxed it will be about 650


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**Appletree23**:	right now just 200


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**Archiel**:	I am excited to announce another Phobos Infrastructure Grant to develop the construction planet QJ-382a in Romulan. This recent grant from the governor builds a PAR and upgrades the SST and more!


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**Astro_Yuumi**:	Hi there,  Can anyone offer me a loan? I want to build some factory related to electronics. The process of accumulating funds in the early stage is so long ;(


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**Tanda**:	You should not be trying to make an electronics base this early in the game, I fear. There's a host of other things you can do profitably here, like producing drinking water


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**Arbids**:	It's definitely much more expensive to start out into electronics. It's much better to start out into something Pioneers produce. Once you have a decent reliable cash flow, then you can start looking into electronics..


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**Archiel**:	Phobos government update- filled the most important and most cost effective upkeep items again. Working hard on getting those needs raised. We had solid growth last week but need to keep things growing. Happiness will continue to rise since it's averaged over the previous couple of weeks.


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**Archiel**:	Also we've got a newly upgraded Park, which will help with comfort, which is often the most challenging to fill on large mixed-population planets.


[09-Mar-25 11:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	As always, the planetary ledger is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xaZX9c4CmwcPsDytp4P67Eboj2lgyIr5uj9o4ui4pNo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

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**Frentic**:	thanks for your amazing work Archiel!


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**InfiniteKr**:	Cheap SCN in local market, if anyone needs any amount message me.


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**InfiniteKr**:	More SCN contracts if anyone needs on local market


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**evayoo**:	ADI provides 1m grants and affordable WCB upgrade kits to support new or growing Antares-based players. It also features an active community with internal markets, coordinated projects, and resources for aspiring governors. Learn more here https://discord.gg/KCzRw8SEmx


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**Archiel**:	I highly recommend the ADI program for all new players starting on Phobos!


[23-Mar-25 11:25 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	Meanwhile I've sent for the first reimbursement since taking over on 2025-02-23. It includes two PAR upgrades, and going from nearly empty POPI to a ~25d stockpile for just about everything but the PAR.


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**Andy97**:	Good deal


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**Galahad888**:	hi


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**Appletree23**:	hellooo


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**Frentic**:	o/


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**InfiniteKr**:	More SCN contracts available


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**skif**:	if anyone can spare some stl fuel I set an order up on the LM, thank you!


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**TuffyLess**:	got it


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**smoogle**:	I accidentally closed some of the windows in my base screen. how do I get them back? no idea what they were


[28-Mar-25 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	uh well, just make the screen to your liking


[28-Mar-25 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	on the left is the BS buffer


[28-Mar-25 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**smoogle**:	I've played the game for three minutes, whatever I was supposed to do was probably in those windows but no idea what they were


[28-Mar-25 06:30 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	you will want inventory, production, and workforce on your main screen


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**TRUEnterprises**:	you click the lighter colored section on the buffer window and drag onto your blank areas on base


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**TRUEnterprises**:	then you resize as needed


[28-Mar-25 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**smoogle**:	ok thank you, I think INV and PROD were what I unintentionally closed


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**TRUEnterprises**:	yes, those are most important


[28-Mar-25 06:32 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	welcome to the game


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**smoogle**:	Thank you. I've started my first production line, which will take 8 hours. Is there anything else for a new player to progress through until then?


[28-Mar-25 06:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**smoogle**:	or just come back in 8?


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**TRUEnterprises**:	That's about it, unless you want to start getting obsessed with planning future growth


[28-Mar-25 06:39 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	I familiarized myself with the different materials and production chains, then I explored the galaxy planets and such


[28-Mar-25 06:40 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	just make sure you follow the tutorial as the rewards are quite good for a new player


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**Hal98**:	Heyo this goes out to all the newer players here in glorious Antares spaces. The Antares Development Initiativ (ADI) has a 1 mil AIC grant for new players. WE just want to see Antares soar! Come join and make a plan for a base and we will help you fund your dreams. Join now at https://discord.gg/ngNRzGzeka


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**Archiel**:	I'm pleased to announce that a Phobos Infrastructure Grant has been granted to ZV-194c for the construction of a level 7 warehouse. Thanks to MrSmith for the construction!


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**SilentReaper**:	Hello Phobos! FIOC is looking to bring on new members to join the group. We operate different than other corps in that we share everything internally. We focus on production in stead of the generation of cash. This allows us to work more as a group, building complimentary bases to maximize outputs. If you're interested in how we do things, come check out our welcome page for more information. https://discord.gg/WNgrAzMdhx


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**Archiel**:	I am issuing a Phobos Development Grant for the construction of SST + INF + ART on Vulcan - Vulcan is a key metallurgy planet in Antares, and as Deimos maxes out and the demand for ASMs increases, Vulcan becomes more and more important.


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**Archiel**:	Thanks to evayoo for organizing the upgrades on Vulcan!


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**SilentReaper**:	Hurray. Thank you!


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**Archiel**:	Phobos governance update! We have had steady scientist growth and we now have no open jobs remaining. We're going to keep up the education jobs so we can grow the scientist count to a comfortable buffer. Meanwhile we've had a warehouse upgrade!


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**eminence32**:	nice work, there were over 1000 open jobs last i looked.  impressive growth


[09-Apr-25 08:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TuffyLess**:	How do we request upgrades to the Astraeus (ZV-307e) WAR?  It's currently only a 500/500.  1k/1k would be nice, 1.5k/1.5k would be better, 2k/2k would be best.  :)


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**Archiel**:	Sounds good to me! If you are willing to do the upgrade, just message me with the cost


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**TuffyLess**:	awesome thanks Archy, will start getting it pulled together.


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**SilentReaper**:	Must have been a bit of a mad rush trying to figure things out after ROF quit the game. But thank you guys for getting on top of things.


[10-Apr-25 11:21 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Archiel**:	A little bit :D We had notice but it is still a big transition


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**Frentic**:	oh boy, did RiseOfFilth quit?


[12-Apr-25 07:10 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Frentic**:	damn, im slow on the news lately


[12-Apr-25 07:11 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hal98**:	yeah quit a few months ago


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**Tanda**:	Firefreak quit too


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**zillatron**:	Paris also :/


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**Frentic**:	damn


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**Frentic**:	3 of the biggest players.. ParisInSpringtime, RiseOfFilth and FireFreak...


[12-Apr-25 07:41 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Frentic**:	instead of MM discussions we should be having endgame discussions... way more important. Above 20 HQ levels this game becomes unbearable.


[12-Apr-25 07:50 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tanda**:	endgame would have been the gateways, but the largest players had no reason to participate in that


[12-Apr-25 07:58 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Frentic**:	True, logistics is one of the key issues this game needs to tackle, imho. Gateways are a step in that direction but something to automate logistics is desperately needed. Maybe a module in ships where you can load drones and configure them... idk.


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**Hal98**:	Devs don't listen tho


[12-Apr-25 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Frentic**:	I believe they do listen, probably they have other things in mind or other objectives... I think they try really hard to listen and try to come up with a solution...


[12-Apr-25 07:59 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Frentic**:	...with solutions* to our requests.


[12-Apr-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Frentic**:	but the dev work is slow, maybe it does not have the necessary investment to put more devs into the project, i really dont know.


[12-Apr-25 08:00 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hal98**:	yeah its hard to say and I don't really know either


[12-Apr-25 09:04 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	They do listen, but I think this latest bundle rollout was the wrong way to go about it


[12-Apr-25 09:18 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Tanda**:	nobody was ever going to be happy with it, I think


[12-Apr-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hal98**:	I dont want a bundle


[12-Apr-25 09:27 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hal98**:	that i have to cart off to be bundled


[12-Apr-25 09:28 PM] ApexChat#8127
**Hal98**:	I think people were wanting being able to make their own package of what ever they wanted


[12-Apr-25 09:33 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	just make a bundle option on the CX that costs like 100 credits and it takes the ask of all the items and tells you the cost - then you select yes or no


[12-Apr-25 09:35 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	make it so you can toggle each item in the bundle on or off, since some bases dont need all items


[12-Apr-25 09:37 PM] ApexChat#8127
**TRUEnterprises**:	XIT actions basically does this for you once you set it up I hear


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**Tanda**:	manufacturable cargo containers


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**Tanda**:	which can be placed into LM shipping contracts


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**Tanda**:	reusable! manufacturable cargo containers


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**Harkenn**:	So am I understanding correctly that when starting off (at least as a constructor) you can do 2 things for the first ~7 hours?


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**Harkenn**:	Only 2 things*


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**TRUEnterprises**:	game starts slow


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**Ketamincat**:	very slow


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**Frentic**:	turtle slow


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**Akyan**:	Hi folks, I'm submitting a request for funding on behalf of Deimos to upgrade the ART POPI from 7->8, which will cost around 4.5m AIC. The tax income on the planet has yet to break even to pay upkeep costs, so not in a position to fund such an upgrade at the moment. As such I'd like to appeal to the Phobos fund. Let me know if the current governers/MPs would support such a fund request. Thanks


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**EvoV**:	I think Phobos should provide loans to other ANT space govs. Low interest loans for planetary development.


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**EvoV**:	Somewhere in the region of 1 or 2% interest per week makes sense imo.


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**Tanda**:	I would definitely take one for Aceland, I think


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**Tanda**:	I'm not sure how that would work though. Seems like a lot of spreadsheet work, since you can't do that with in game systems


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**Harkenn**:	How do worker assignments work? If I have a building that isn't in use, will its workers move over to another one that isn't fully staffed?


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**Finest_One**:	If the building is built its "in use" besides that Population will redistribute on the planet for everyone every pop Cycle. You can see the planets Pop Cycle by clicking on the Workforce Population # in the planet menu or just using Code POPR (planet ID)


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**Tanda**:	Dang, I just dropped a couple SCI consumers and didn't have to wait at all for POP. Thanks Archiel!


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**Dzentak**:	with the new market changes i'm looking to modify my base, 0/0/850/330/180 from 0/0/0/540/440


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**Dzentak**:	number of shipping/sales ads posted here


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**Tanda**:	good to see someone is rolling into producing WAI already


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**Harkenn**:	Can you abandon a contract or do you just have to wait for it to expire?


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**Harkenn**:	Also, are there penalties for doing so that aren't shown?


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**eminence32**:	are you asking about faction contracts or contracts with other players?


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**YuLun**:	faction conts I guess


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**Harkenn**:	Faction


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**YuLun**:	you can't abandon or cancel a faction contract once accepted


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**eminence32**:	you lose faction reputation if you breach a faction contract, but that doesn't really matter


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**YuLun**:	yea for not the only thing it does it get you higher up in LEAD leader board


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**YuLun**:	*for now


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**Dzentak**:	i miscalculated, I am short 3 LD/day


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**TRUEnterprises**:	There's enough of a market that you can put in a bid for LD and make up that deficit


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**TRUEnterprises**:	I sell LD to the CX from time to time


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**Datucis**:	How do you purchase items you need on this? All i see are people with shipping, nothing up for sale


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**Tanda**:	all sales and purchases generally take place on the CX. Try the command CXL in a new buffer and explore from there


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**Datucis**:	I figured it out :D thanks. I was looking at the local markets and not the commodity exchange


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**Potatoman1**:	Why has my basic materials plant halted production?


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**MrSmith33**:	Do you have workforce consumables like DW, RAT, OVE, COF, PWO?


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**AirbusFloA320**:	Hi! I need NCC and I’m offering AIC on the FX market. Can anyone trade?


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**Archiel**:	Hi everyone, it's time for Phobos Government Update! We are expecting some population shifts as we approach the IDC changes. We have had some good grants go out, including a big set of upgrades for Nike. Overall, we are expecting a lot of the IDC to move to lower tier pop electronics as people move towards drones or ship components (which includes the LIS chain). Give me a shout if you are planning big moves.


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**Archiel**:	I will continue running education to maintain pops until they stabilize without growing the low tiers too much- since we can move those very quickly with festivals if needed.


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**Archiel**:	As always, the public ledger is available at: http://oogcapitalmanagement.com/r/phobos


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**Pxlfox**:	o/ hello


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**Pxlfox**:	going to setup a base with 40 SET, 440 TEC and 200 ENG sometime in this POP cycle


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**Archiel**:	SilentReaper is the new governor of Griffonstone and he has submitted a request for the Phobos Infrastructure Fund. He is looking to upgrade the UNI and the ART. I will put the motion up for a vote. Thank you all!


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